thanks , i 'll bare that in mind , yes go through blackwall tunnel a couple of times a week unfortunately its usually very crowded ,would i be right in guessing the parking censors are in the bumper in the grill ? Iike the look without it but i m coming from a 911 so a lot more in front than i m used to so need them to stay? I ve got a lot more characters on my plate so the shorter one wouldnt work , looks good on yous though Will pop some pix up soon ,