Ceramic coating advice?

Anyone tried Xpel Fusion ceramic on top of their PPF yet?

Its like £450 extra, but is it worth having instead of Gtechqni Crystal Ultra coat or just applying your own layer of Gtechqni Halo?
 
I applied a synthetic sealant today and have to say i'm delighted at the results and how easy it was to apply.

Will have to see how long it lasts now
 
Kamikaze Zipang ceramic and XPEL PPF on the nose. By those quite exceptional detailers at Polished Perection Plymouth.
 

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basher said:
scm said:
Basher had his done, I expect he'll be along with sage words soon. ;)

Indeed I did, and it's nice to know that someone reagrds my words as sagely (is that even a word???). :D

I took my 400 to https://autocurators.com/ as they'd come highly recommended by several others on this forum.

  • They use their own custom ceramic coat... check their website for details.
  • They did my wheels too. In fact, I have my car booked in with them in 2 weeks to refurb 3 kerbed wheels, and to paint my rear calipers.
  • I also had PPF applied to the front end.

Very impressed with the outcome. Even without a pressure washer / snow foam, washing is a breeze. The "glassy" coating is so nice to touch too. ;)

I can't comment on other ceramic coats or detailing companies, but I'm sure others on here can recommend some.

My advice... just do it. Definitely worth the money IMHO.

I’m thinking of using these guys. Do you know which product they used for the ceramic coating when you had yours done? I can’t afford the PPF so will just be the ceramic. Seemed very knowledgable on the phone and good value...
 
Blueone said:
basher said:
scm said:
Indeed I did, and it's nice to know that someone reagrds my words as sagely (is that even a word???). :D

I took my 400 to https://autocurators.com/ as they'd come highly recommended by several others on this forum.

  • They use their own custom ceramic coat... check their website for details.
  • They did my wheels too. In fact, I have my car booked in with them in 2 weeks to refurb 3 kerbed wheels, and to paint my rear calipers.
  • I also had PPF applied to the front end.

Very impressed with the outcome. Even without a pressure washer / snow foam, washing is a breeze. The "glassy" coating is so nice to touch too. ;)

I can't comment on other ceramic coats or detailing companies, but I'm sure others on here can recommend some.

My advice... just do it. Definitely worth the money IMHO.

I’m thinking of using these guys. Do you know which product they used for the ceramic coating when you had yours done? I can’t afford the PPF so will just be the ceramic. Seemed very knowledgable on the phone and good value...

The clue is in basher's answer ;)
 
Fact, if you want the best, but expensive, wet sand which will get rid if any marks, then paint protection film, then ceramic coat over that.
Very expensive but the best. If its a keeper that's the way to go.
Otherwise depending on how new the car is one stage one or two correction then paint protection film
or correction plus ceramic coating. Ceramic coating will NOT prevent stone chips, just makes it easier to clean
 
scm said:
Blueone said:
basher said:
I’m thinking of using these guys. Do you know which product they used for the ceramic coating when you had yours done? I can’t afford the PPF so will just be the ceramic. Seemed very knowledgable on the phone and good value...



The clue is in basher's answer ;)

I need to remember to put my glasses on... That tallies with what the guy said so all good.
 
chicb said:
Fact, if you want the best, but expensive, wet sand which will get rid if any marks, then paint protection film, then ceramic coat over that.
Very expensive but the best. If its a keeper that's the way to go.
Otherwise depending on how new the car is one stage one or two correction then paint protection film
or correction plus ceramic coating. Ceramic coating will NOT prevent stone chips, just makes it easier to clean

This confirms that Ceramic Coating is the way to go for me. It’s unlikely I’ll keep the car forever but I do want to enjoy washing it and make it easier so sounds like I need the ceramic coat. I’m thinking of going for the entry level package they offer (£450). The car will be around 3 or 4 weeks old when I get it done so pretty new!

Their blurb reads as follows:

In 2016 we introduced our entry level ‘Lite’ New Car treatment, in response to feedback from our customers. Sometimes, you just want your new car to be well protected and easy to maintain, without being too worried about potential minor marks. Perhaps it’s the family car, your daily commuter, even a lease or company car that just needs to be kept presentable during your tenure. It is priced very competitively compared to what the dealership will be offering, on a like for like basis. The reality is that the same in depth level of care and expertise will be used to properly prepare your car for the application of the Auto Curators Signature Coating (single layer application), but without the machine polishing. At just £450.00 including VAT, you can enjoy all the benefits of that comes with professional application of the best products.

The choices of products for new car paint protection are Swissvax, Auto Curators Signature Coating or the Kamikaze Collection products – full details of these are available here.

Prices (all including VAT at current rate)

‘Lite’ New Car Detail with Ceramic Coat or Swissvax (<1 day) £450.00
New Car Detail with Auto Curators Signature Coating Single Layer application (1-1.5 days) £595.00, or Signature Coating Dual Layer application (2 days) £695.00


Thoughts? Sorry if discussing this breaks forum rules. Feel free to delete if needs be...
 
Blueone said:
chicb said:
Fact, if you want the best, but expensive, wet sand which will get rid if any marks, then paint protection film, then ceramic coat over that.
Very expensive but the best. If its a keeper that's the way to go.
Otherwise depending on how new the car is one stage one or two correction then paint protection film
or correction plus ceramic coating. Ceramic coating will NOT prevent stone chips, just makes it easier to clean

This confirms that Ceramic Coating is the way to go for me. It’s unlikely I’ll keep the car forever but I do want to enjoy washing it and make it easier so sounds like I need the ceramic coat. I’m thinking of going for the entry level package they offer (£450). The car will be around 3 or 4 weeks old when I get it done so pretty new!

Their blurb reads as follows:

In 2016 we introduced our entry level ‘Lite’ New Car treatment, in response to feedback from our customers. Sometimes, you just want your new car to be well protected and easy to maintain, without being too worried about potential minor marks. Perhaps it’s the family car, your daily commuter, even a lease or company car that just needs to be kept presentable during your tenure. It is priced very competitively compared to what the dealership will be offering, on a like for like basis. The reality is that the same in depth level of care and expertise will be used to properly prepare your car for the application of the Auto Curators Signature Coating (single layer application), but without the machine polishing. At just £450.00 including VAT, you can enjoy all the benefits of that comes with professional application of the best products.

The choices of products for new car paint protection are Swissvax, Auto Curators Signature Coating or the Kamikaze Collection products – full details of these are available here.

Prices (all including VAT at current rate)

‘Lite’ New Car Detail with Ceramic Coat or Swissvax (<1 day) £450.00
New Car Detail with Auto Curators Signature Coating Single Layer application (1-1.5 days) £595.00, or Signature Coating Dual Layer application (2 days) £695.00


Thoughts? Sorry if discussing this breaks forum rules. Feel free to delete if needs be...


Personally if you are spending £450, I’d look to get at least a 1 stage correction on the paintwork first - prep is absolutely key, you don’t want to seal in any marks, swirls or marring under the ceramic coat

Being a few weeks old the car will/should have minimal marks but swirls will be there straight away when the dealer washes it for collection

This is much more evident on a darker paint
 
Your car will definitely have some swirls or marks as the valeters at main dealers are only allowed a certain time to prepare a car. You should at least have 1st stage machine polish. Its pointless spending £450 to lock in the swirls. You have spent a lot buying the car so in the grand scheme of things another couple of hundred is a drop in the ocean getting it looking the best it could be. The cheapest is not the best at detailing. Go & see a couple of detailers checking out their work before deciding.
Have a look at detailing world forum (https://detailingworld.co.uk/forum/index.php) for lots of advice
 
Like a few others I went for Gtechniq Crystal Serum Ultra, including the glass, wheels, and interior (all treated with the appropriate Gtechniq products). I'd highly recommend the product and the results were fantastic. My local detailer is UAS in Llanelli, they were great...

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I'm getting 3/4 Xpel Ultra PPF wrap fitted, then I'm Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light the uncovered parts, followed by a coat of Gtechniq Halo on the PPF and Exo on the Crystal Serum Light.

Sounds complicated but this is because I've heard if you put a ceramic coat or sealant coat on top of Xpel Ultra PPF it blocks the self repair function.

Anyone got advice on how to protect the Panoramic Sunroof? i.e. do you polish it? ceramic coat it or just pay for the PPF wrap?
 
Just spent the weekend washing, polishing and sealing the car.

Used GTechniq all the way, Carwash, followed by P1 Nano Polish, CSL+ Exo on the paintwork and Halo on the PPF...looks belting :)

I think its safer to stick to using the complete line from one company that way you dont run the risk of an chemical imbalances or incompatible treatments
 
I’ve not long had my F Type ceramic coated, the Fenlab product is my fave. I had it all done from wheels , paint, roof and full interior.

I’ve had all my cars done and personally I swear by it.

The coating simply protects the serious amount of paint correction required for any car. My F type needed a lot of paint correction and now shines like a new pin
 
Although as I previously stated that I have my cars ceramic coated, a friend of mine pointed me to Meguiars hybrid ceramic wax. If you have a pretty decent finish to your car, its pretty good without going to the cost of full ceramic coat for only about £15 a bottle.
Basically you wash your car as normal, leave it wet, spray this on & power wash or hose it off then dry your car. Its as simple as that. It leaves a good finish with plenty of beading. Obviously it wont last as long, but for the cost I have started using it every wash, but you don't have to as it will probably last a few washes. Lots of YouTube videos. It gets the thumbs up from me
 
chicb said:
Although as I previously stated that I have my cars ceramic coated, a friend of mine pointed me to Meguiars hybrid ceramic wax. If you have a pretty decent finish to your car, its pretty good without going to the cost of full ceramic coat for only about £15 a bottle.
Basically you wash your car as normal, leave it wet, spray this on & power wash or hose it off then dry your car. Its as simple as that. It leaves a good finish with plenty of beading. Obviously it wont last as long, but for the cost I have started using it every wash, but you don't have to as it will probably last a few washes. Lots of YouTube videos. It gets the thumbs up from me

I recently seen the Meguiars hybrid ceramic wax while I was in my local Halfords store. It seems like a very good product but I haven't used it yet.

For the past few months I have been using Autoglym Rapid Aquawax. You just spray into onto the car while it's still wet (after washing it) and then use a large microfibre cloth to spread it all over. It gives a stunning deep shine which beads water really well and lasts for ages.......best wax I've used by far!

https://www.autoglym.com/products/bodywork/wax/rapid-aqua-wax-complete-kit
 
Ceramic Coating myths........The truth about Ceramic Coatings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGXMeY-jsUw
 
RPSN said:
chicb said:
Although as I previously stated that I have my cars ceramic coated, a friend of mine pointed me to Meguiars hybrid ceramic wax. If you have a pretty decent finish to your car, its pretty good without going to the cost of full ceramic coat for only about £15 a bottle.
Basically you wash your car as normal, leave it wet, spray this on & power wash or hose it off then dry your car. Its as simple as that. It leaves a good finish with plenty of beading. Obviously it wont last as long, but for the cost I have started using it every wash, but you don't have to as it will probably last a few washes. Lots of YouTube videos. It gets the thumbs up from me

I recently seen the Meguiars hybrid ceramic wax while I was in my local Halfords store. It seems like a very good product but I haven't used it yet.

For the past few months I have been using Autoglym Rapid Aquawax. You just spray into onto the car while it's still wet (after washing it) and then use a large microfibre cloth to spread it all over. It gives a stunning deep shine which beads water really well and lasts for ages.......best wax I've used by far!

https://www.autoglym.com/products/bodywork/wax/rapid-aqua-wax-complete-kit
I'm also on the rapidwax which is very good. I have been trying their three stage system.
https://www.autoglym.com/polarpressurewasher
Not convinced yet though.
 
With the Meguiars, you only have to spread it with a micro fibre the first time you use it on a wet car. Subsequent use, you just spray on wet car & power wash or hose off, then dry as normal.
 
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