Will the F Type still be in production come end of September

I miss-read your post, I though you meant you hadn't seen may XEs, but now I see you meant XFs

yes - There are very few XFs about - I used to see a few when I had my XF Sportbrake, but now, I only see XF's occasionally.

The XE is a more affordable car and appeals to the right market. If any model gets dropped, I think it will be the XF saloon, but the sportbrake may still fill a gap in the market - the space with the seats down is much more than the F-Pace
 
I had a new XF sportbrake as a courtesy car whilst my F Type was being serviced. I am afraid it felt like a dinasour in comparison to a BMW 5 series estate or other German equivalents I have been in or driven.
Last year I had the F Pace and again it felt antiquated, not good for JLR.
 
In regard to the F Pace, it just felt cheap and trim creaked a lot inside and the drive just didn't inspire me, I never tried any of the tecky stuff. Not sure why but if I was in the market for a SUV, I wouldn't be looking at the F Pace.
My F Type blows me away everytime I look at it, I feel it feels special inside and gives me a sense of occasion anytime I drive it.
Unfortunately no other JLR products have the same effect, in fact the reverse. The XF estate just felt old fashioned.

Whereas having owned many Porsche 911S and Boxsters, I wouldn't trade my F Type for one, but give me a Macan over an F Pace anytime.

Therefore going back to the original topic, I really hope the F Type stays in production for a long time. Mind you looking in the showroom at the new styling of the F Type😢😢😢😢😢🙁🙁🙁🙁
 
Came across something somewhere that said the F type was one of the most profitable if the range. Kind of makes sense as the costs of producing a car won't be enponentially different compared to the sale price. The cheaper the car, the more you need to sell as the individual contribution is smaller.

Perhaps Jag needs an MX5/boxter to bring people in.

Presumably why BMW and Merc have put a lot of development into the 1'series and A class. To capture the some younger buyers who'll then move upwards in the brand.
 
mickjaguar said:
Perhaps Jag needs an MX5/boxter to bring people in.
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surely that's the ftype....?
Boxter list price - £49k, Ftype list price - £52k

That's the same market, take into account most customers will be focused on X deposit and Y per month and the £3k difference in list price wouldn't even be noticeable. The Ftype is on the down cycle and R&D costs for the most recent facelift will most likely not be re-couped before it comes off sale - It's a very low volume car
 
I think it somewhat depends on if you want to appeal to age or money. BMW was a premium brand but now their cars are common as muck and many people can afford one - maybe moving up from a Mini. As such no one gives a second look to all the black boxes on the roads now - especially as there are a ridiculous number of model variants.

A friend has just got a great deal on an M850i as they want to get a few more out on the roads - it's an impressive looking car, with its adaptive aero and suchlike, but personally the only BMW I'd consider would be a Z4. And the Luddite in me just craves a car I can connect with when I drive and not with multiple driver "assistance" features.

The problem is that you can't produce an exclusive and fine looking car for a reasonably affordable price, and as we see with the F-Type there are low mileage bargains to be had. I worry that going down the electric XJ route will be the downfall for Jaguar. With gestation periods and taxation and market swings it is something of a game of chance committing such sums of money to a new model - I personally feel they have done well to stay away from interim hybrids but do need to nail a better iPace to generate the funds for not canning the next F-Type. As much as I enjoyed my XE, Jaguar should ditch the saloons and bring out a base model iPace that makes (slightly) more economic sense for people to buy into.

...and then give us a stunning next gen F-Type :D
 
I would like to have seen an EV E-Pace. It's the only other car in the JLR range that would appeal.
The I-Pace is just too big for me.
 
I quite like the E pace, but the XE owner says she'd rather have an Evoque (which I don't really like). Most of the 4X4s are just too big. The RR sport is a very nice car but again too big for me. Although for some reason the new Defender seems quite nice.

EV's will make a lot of sense when the realistic range is approaching 400 miles, which is as far as I usually can drive in a day and the charging infrastructure is much better. So I don't plan on changing cars for a few years yet, as all this develops.
 
It's charging speed that puts me off EVs - I can get 350 miles of range into my F-Type in under 10 minutes. ;)
 
Something like an EV E-Pace could replace HWMBO's M135i. Doesn't do massive mileage a 400 range would be fine. My only issue is that our UK cars sit in a heated garage in Carcoons over the winter for up to 5 months. Battery conditioners are fine for this but cannot imagine how an EV cars battery would cope with inactivity for a serious length of time. We have problems enough with our electric mountain bike batteries.
 
A little update from the old CEO of Jaguar, "Clearly it is Jaguar where the most serious thinking is required. I would simply can the poor selling XF saloon and focus on electrifying the XJ, XE, J-Pace SUV and drop the F-Type sports car." You heard it first...
 
I read that article too. The new CEO from Renault starts soon (October I believe).
 
The quote was from an ex JLR chief engineer. Same one that said in May that Tata had signed with Peugeot to sell the company. So the answer is no halo car and concentrate production to SUVs. That'll be erm called Land Rover then! Niche players need flair and style, the XF etc is too staid. Look at what the Fiat 500; achieved for that company. Technology and engineering wasn't anything special but it sold like hot cakes anyway and saved the company.
 
Good evening all,
I speak from experience. Between my wife and I, we’ve owned 2 F Types, 2 E Pace’s and 1 F Pace. All of them were bought brand new.
I think all of them were great. We had an E Pace then moved to the F Pace but it was too big for my wife, Liz, so she went back to the E Pace and we’re delighted with it. I love Jaguar as a brand.
I’ve moved on to another British marque - Mclaren. I’m on my second, a 600 LTS. I love it.
I do believe that Jaguar will always have a sports version. I suspect the facelift F Type will not be replaced. Jaguar have trademarked the J Type and I suspect it will be at least a hybrid, hopefully along the lines of the beautiful CX-75 which never made it to production. How they’ll get a hybrid sports car to start at around £50K is a different matter.
However, as I’ve posted previously, I’d be more than happy to part ex my Mac against a version of the CX-75. I suspect it will more likely be priced north of £150k.
Still, what do I know! 🤣🤣
 
" a version of the CX-75. I suspect it will more likely be priced north of £150k".

Ooooh. I can see the kids inheritance going 🤣
 
Lunar said:
I think it somewhat depends on if you want to appeal to age or money. BMW was a premium brand but now their cars are common as muck and many people can afford one - maybe moving up from a Mini. As such no one gives a second look to all the black boxes on the roads now - especially as there are a ridiculous number of model variants.

A friend has just got a great deal on an M850i as they want to get a few more out on the roads - it's an impressive looking car, with its adaptive aero and suchlike, but personally the only BMW I'd consider would be a Z4. And the Luddite in me just craves a car I can connect with when I drive and not with multiple driver "assistance" features.

The problem is that you can't produce an exclusive and fine looking car for a reasonably affordable price, and as we see with the F-Type there are low mileage bargains to be had. I worry that going down the electric XJ route will be the downfall for Jaguar. With gestation periods and taxation and market swings it is something of a game of chance committing such sums of money to a new model - I personally feel they have done well to stay away from interim hybrids but do need to nail a better iPace to generate the funds for not canning the next F-Type. As much as I enjoyed my XE, Jaguar should ditch the saloons and bring out a base model iPace that makes (slightly) more economic sense for people to buy into.

...and then give us a stunning next gen F-Type :D
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I concur with the ridiculous proliferation of the German brands. While I hate it I think from a business perspective the big three Germans were forward thinking in know they need to get products out there and not only cater for the older probably higher earners. This is something while I respect, BMW for sure has lost the essence of what BMW was and we're the poorer for it.

One of my dream cars is still the 635 CSi. One became available on the used market here and I'd love to get it and park it next to the F Type.

I love Jaguar and always will (never did as a kid as saw it as an old mans car), but this back and forth with ownership, the F Types future is out of hand !
If the F type goes, there goes the demise of another great car, leaving the field open to that common of German cars - Porsche and I simply will not buy a VW product.
 
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