Will the F Type still be in production come end of September

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Fez

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Rumours are building that JRL are going to cut some of their Models... I doubt the F type will survive as all indications are it is going to be replace by the hybrid mid engine J Type... The question is will JLR cut the F Type and wait a couple of years before introducing the J Type who knows...
Time to hold on to your F types...
 
Fez said:
... I doubt the F type will survive as all indications are it is going to be replace by the hybrid mid engine J Type...
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Do you have inside information? I thought Jaguar was focusing on all-electric vehicles, especially since hybrids are to be outlawed in a couple of decades, so would seem to be wasted development.
 
Doesn't make sense. The new FType is < 1 year old. Why stop producing it ?
The J Type is supposed to be a midengined supercar to compete with the likes of Mclaren ( I think). I don't see how it can replace the F Type as they're in two different price brackets.
 
The F type sold more than the XJ year on year and even ahead of the XF in 2019. Biggest volumes are the F pace, E pace, XE and i pace.

Whilst the XJ had been around too long and was dropped, pending the electric replacement, the XF is the same age as the XE but doesn't seem to have been as successful as the previous generation model. Hardly ever see one on UK roads.

The XF styling doesn't seem to work on the larger body. It seems much more boxy and slab sided. It's too bland and doesn't make the 'I want one of those' that the other models do. I would create a single hybrid/EV to replace both the XF and XJ (lwb version) variants, which has to be a real looker.
 
Well given the dire state of the car industry and in the case of JLR of its parent company too, then I think it has to seriously look at range reduction. Across JLR there are at least 13 distinct ranges in production, which feels way too many.
Would be a shame but if I were the accountant the F Type would be high on the list, being end of life soon, not electric and low volume. I’d also pick between XE and XF, and then ePace F pace.to cull 2 more
On LR side there must be a lot of overlap between LR and RR that could be culled.
 
The F and E pace I guess would be best sellers.
Followed by XE and then Land Rover models.

There are several articles on the internet about this. Most are hearsay and nothing confirmed. Even the link below says MIGHT in the title!

www.motor1.com/news/429694/jlr-might-announce-model-cuts/amp/
 
Given that the F-type development, tooling and supply chain costs must have been expensed a long time ago, the incremental cost of production to JLR must be almost trivial, so it’s a cash cow and likely to survive; it’s also a halo product critical for brand image. The Chinese loan will go to EV development, most of the existing range will soldier on in tarted up and keenly priced special editions, and the stuff they can’t sell above cost will be dropped. The hope will be that enough revenue can be generated to keep the business cash flow positive until some new products emerge. Assuming the consumers want to buy EVs of course, not a given. Also interesting to me is what happens to the corporate car market in the age of Zoom etc. and the collapse of the car hire companies. Will be many nice motors on the market; Hertz in the US have a quarter of a million vehicles heading for auction. Manufacturers will have to find new ways of marketing their products and I suspect the dealership system is already in their sights; too much of the cake swallowed by them.
 
The market is booming at the moment, my next door neighbours sells Nissans and he’s never been as busy, his dealership sold 98 cars this week and have almost ran out of stock, he said many customers are using the money they would have spent on this years holidays towards a new car. High end dealers are also clamouring for stock from other sources as auction prices have rocketed. As the economy gets back to normal, or slumps as many expect, who knows what will happen, but at the moment the market is in a much better place than many predicted.
 
Lofty said:
The market is booming at the moment, my next door neighbours sells Nissans and he’s never been as busy, his dealership sold 98 cars this week and have almost ran out of stock, he said many customers are using the money they would have spent on this years holidays towards a new car. High end dealers are also clamouring for stock from other sources as auction prices have rocketed. As the economy gets back to normal, or slumps as many expect, who knows what will happen, but at the moment the market is in a much better place than many predicted.
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My sister has just brought new Mini, Niece new Audi. Both picked up Friday. That black V6 convertible sold on the F-Type FB page within days. All domestic trades I know are busy.

Then I listen to BBC & it’s Armageddon. They do seem to focus, almost delight, on the negative. Not sure why they do that 🤔

Not saying it’s a bed of roses, for everyone, but evidence the world is still turning 🙏
 
It is not looking good here in Canada or the States for the F-Type. My Jaguar dealership has 10 vehicles signed up and ready to go out the door but due to the Oil crash and C-19 these sales are now on hold.. If you are a nerd like me look at the link where it shows the numbers in the US and Canada

https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/jaguar-f-type-sales-figures-usa-canada/

FT’s are popular summer toys. F Pace and E Pace are popular here. Very rarely do you see an XJ
 
I’ve recently heard about an old airfield at a place called Bruntingthorpe which is housing approximately 50 000 LR cars, registered 2019 and 2020. Been there for months....
As an owner of 2 F Types, 400 Sport and an SVR, I’d be sad to see Jaguar stop production. With Jaguar’s heritage, I’d be more than a tad surprised if it did stop without a successor. Then again, I’d be highly interested in buying a J Type!
 
Sooooo....

a) Surely they wouldn’t miss the odd SVR?

...although it could mean half a day walking around pressing the remote button :D

b) @Blakums what’s your experience between the F-Type and Macca regarding quality, reliability, and customer service?
 
Blakums said:
I’ve recently heard about an old airfield at a place called Bruntingthorpe which is housing approximately 50 000 LR cars, registered 2019 and 2020. Been there for months....
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I think your numbers are a bit high. Cox Automotive which runs the site have capacity to store around 25,000 vehicles. They operate for many manufacturers
None of this is new though. Even back in the old days of BL they stored thousands of new cars for months
 
mickjaguar said:
the XE but doesn't seem to have been as successful as the previous generation model. Hardly ever see one on UK roads.
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Not sure where you live, but I live in West Yorkshire and I must see 4 or 5 XEs on a daily basis. They are really popular around here. I can count at least 15 that I know of in my town alone and 2 F-Types (mine being one of them).

I see quite a lot of F-Paces and E-Paces too, and there's an I-Pace somewhere nearby that I see occasionally
 
cj10jeeper said:
Blakums said:
I’ve recently heard about an old airfield at a place called Bruntingthorpe which is housing approximately 50 000 LR cars, registered 2019 and 2020. Been there for months....
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I think your numbers are a bit high. Cox Automotive which runs the site have capacity to store around 25,000 vehicles. They operate for many manufacturers
None of this is new though. Even back in the old days of BL they stored thousands of new cars for months
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That's where I got mine from - The car I wanted from the dealer was sold about 4 hours before I went to look at it, so the dealer said he would look in the group stock - 2 days later he emailed me the spec of the one I now own, it had been built for a fleet but never took delivery, so it sat at Bruntingthorpe for 6 months before I bought it. 150 miles on the clock, never registered, nearly 20k of upgrades, but had to be sold as "used", so I got a really good deal. If you look at Bruntingthorpe on Google maps, you can see thousands of cars stored there...
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devbrodie said:
mickjaguar said:
the XE but doesn't seem to have been as successful as the previous generation model. Hardly ever see one on UK roads.
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Not sure where you live, but I live in West Yorkshire and I must see 4 or 5 XEs on a daily basis. They are really popular around here. I can count at least 15 that I know of in my town alone and 2 F-Types (mine being one of them).

I see quite a lot of F-Paces and E-Paces too, and there's an I-Pace somewhere nearby that I see occasionally
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I was referring to the lack of XF's on the roads. I probably see more F types! Plenty of XE's around including our own XE R sport, so I can spot the difference between an XE and XF very easily.

Statistics worldwide are on the web by year and model. Biggest sellers by a long way are Range Rover and Range Rover Sport, which I don't think attract discount, so are a huge money spinner. Interestingly the LR Discovery is about the same volume as the XE.
 
Millwheel said:
Given that the F-type development, tooling and supply chain costs must have been expensed a long time ago, the incremental cost of production to JLR must be almost trivial, so it’s a cash cow and likely to survive
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The Ftype is definitely not a cash cow product, profit margins are very slim and development costs have only just been covered - this doesn't take into account the facelift car just released who's development costs will most likely not be recouped before it goes out of production.

If the Ftype survives the next 6 months in terms of JLR downsizing (evident from recent news articles and published performance figures) then I think we are looking at 2 years max before production stops

XE, XF, Ftype are all low volume & extremely low profitability cars, many sell at a loss - In the Jaguar line up they would be the first to go. Interesting times over the next few months with the car industry, I'm sure there will be a few good deals to be had for buyers and an incredibly tough time for manufacturers
 
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