What tyres does everyone use?

kcm123456

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Mine came with 20 inch Pirelli P-Zero, and I've noticed a very significant and intrusive noise when cruising on rough roads like the M25. Has anyone else noticed this? I think I'll go for a less racy (and hopefully more quiet) set when I change them if this is definitely an issue with the tyres.
 
P Zeros on my 2019 R also, when they are due for replacement I'll be going down the Mich PS4S or GY F1 route.
My previous 981 Cayman came fitted with P Zeros, and just like with the Jag, they are fine in the dry, but totally lacking of any feedback in the wet.
I can only assume Pirelli are offering Jag, Porsche, et al very tempting pricing.
They were universally detested over on various porky forums, and when mine were due for replacement the PS4S transformed the car.

Stu.
 
I switched from P Zero's to Michelin PS4S a couple of years ago. Night and day difference in ride quality and grip.
 
So P-Zeros are probably just for style points with the brand then? I mean I have a friend who wanted to put Pirellis on his Ford Focus because he thought it would be cool. I've previously put Continental PremiumContact 6s on my Astra GTC and it came with Michelins on it, Continentals were absolutely flawless I found.

Seems to be that PilotSport 4s are the way to go now then on the F-Type?

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre-Type/Passenger-Car-Summer-Max-Performance-Tyres/

This list rates all the Pirelli tyres very poorly...
 
I'm likely due new tyres in time for MOT, there's a few different options for Pilot Sport 4S. I see them marked for BMW, Mercedes but no Jaguar marking. Should I just get the tyres that aren't specific to any maker as they're rated for better performance.

How are the Pilot Sport 5 compared to the 4S? I've read they're likely to last longer but have slightly, maybe insignificant, worse performance to the PS4.
 
elugelab said:
Is it just me that can't find PS4S or PS5s in the right size for the R?

PS4Ss are made for the F-Type 20" wheels - what size are yours? I have them on the back, Mercedes marked. I think the PS5s, being new, are slow coming in all the sizes.
 
Mr.Tea said:
I'm likely due new tyres in time for MOT, there's a few different options for Pilot Sport 4S. I see them marked for BMW, Mercedes but no Jaguar marking. Should I just get the tyres that aren't specific to any maker as they're rated for better performance.

I got Mercedes marked tyres for my rears as I couldn't find generic ones. I've heard that AM ones are equally good. There are no Jaguar marked ones, nor incidentally, are there any 295 20" PZeros "J" marked, only 285s.
 
scm said:
elugelab said:
Is it just me that can't find PS4S or PS5s in the right size for the R?

PS4Ss are made for the F-Type 20" wheels - what size are yours? I have them on the back, Mercedes marked. I think the PS5s, being new, are slow coming in all the sizes.

Good tip, looks like the rears are available in Merc markings - 295/30/20.
 
scm said:
elugelab said:
Is it just me that can't find PS4S or PS5s in the right size for the R?

PS4Ss are made for the F-Type 20" wheels - what size are yours? I have them on the back, Mercedes marked. I think the PS5s, being new, are slow coming in all the sizes.

Off of the top of my head I believe its 275/35/19 for the rears and 245/40/19 for the front.
 
I’ve just had a new rear ps4 from Asda tyres fitted at a local tyre place for £280, that’s for the 20” 295 flavour too, they were cheaper than anywhere else for the same tyre
 
Rjbaker said:
I’ve just had a new rear ps4 from Asda tyres fitted at a local tyre place for £280, that’s for the 20” 295 flavour too, they were cheaper than anywhere else for the same tyre

What a difference a year makes - I had two rear PS4Ss fitted this time last year for £518 by Halfords mobile (tyres bought from Black Circles).
 
I tried to get some standard Pilot Sport 4s tyres for the rear last year, but the local dealer wanted £320 a corner so I politely declined. What also put me off was the dealer insisting that the tyre was exactly the same as the Porsche stamped one they had in stock at 'only' £300. Funny how Michelin themselves think otherwise :

pilot-sport.jpg

Now it could well be that the wet braking performance only just creeps into the lower bracket, but I wasn't going to take any chances just because they had them in stock and were a bit cheaper. I also have that tyre review chap in my mind when he spoke to Michelin about their BMW-homologated PS4s, which does have a slightly different construction to the standard (un-BMW-stamped) tyre. I went with the Conti Sport Contact 6 - as the 7 was only just launched and didn't have many sizes available (the 295/30R20 tyre is still not available). It's been fine through summer and winter driving - and colder weather was an area where the Pirelli was sketchy as hell for me - but definitely not a quiet tyre and I'm not exploring the limits of it by any means, but they hasn't given me any "brown trouser" moments. My fronts are probably going to date expire before they run out of tread (3 years old, 12,000 miles of country roads and motorway miles and they still have over 6mm remaining)
 
Put a brand new pair of Pirelli P Zero 19's on the front of the cat. £337 in total from Black Circles and fitted by AutoElite Watford in 58 minutes from dropping the car off!
 
kcm123456 said:
So P-Zeros are probably just for style points with the brand then? I mean I have a friend who wanted to put Pirellis on his Ford Focus because he thought it would be cool. I've previously put Continental PremiumContact 6s on my Astra GTC and it came with Michelins on it, Continentals were absolutely flawless I found.

Seems to be that PilotSport 4s are the way to go now then on the F-Type?

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre-Type/Passenger-Car-Summer-Max-Performance-Tyres/

This list rates all the Pirelli tyres very poorly...

I really struggle to understand how that data set leads you to that conclusion? Especially when you see the latest AutoBild test results and how well the PZ4 performs..

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2023-Summer-Tyre-Market-Overview.htm

I would add the Pirelli is not an UUHP tyre like the PS4S, so you wouldn't expect it to perform as well in dry grip tests. It's difficult to find recent comparative tests of the two tyres therefore, however did find this one from the US:

https://toptirereview.com/michelin-pilot-sport-4s-vs-pirelli-p-zero-pz4/

Bottom line for me is that the PZ4 is a very good tyre although not able to perform at the class leading levels of the PS4S
 
This post got me thinking actually what’s fitted to mine as I’ve not long bought the car! I knew it had Michelin’s on it, but wasn’t sure which ones.

It’s sitting on -

Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
Front 255/35ZR20 97Y
Rear 295/30ZR20 101Y

They feel / sound great to me.

I had an F80 M3 prior to the F, which also had 4s’ on. Great tyre! 👍🏼
 
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