Weekend hire of a V6S AWD

[jimbobc]

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</font><p ="Msonormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">So this weekend I hired an F-Type V6S AWD from Miles and
Miles after no dealer offering me a test drive locally (I was honest and said I
wouldn't be buying for 12 months).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></font><font size="3">Following
the weekend I most definitely would like one but will be wanting to spend
around £35k so will need to be patient.</font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3">
</font></span><font size="3">I did 410 miles on a variety of roads.</font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3">
</font></span><font size="3">Sensible driving surprisingly gets into 30mpg and enjoyable driving
about 20mpg.</font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3"> </font></span><font size="3">The car was ultimate black with
black tornado 20" wheels which were knackered (all but 1 wheel kerbed badly
after 6k miles and 3 months from new).</font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3">
</font></span><font size="3">It had the carbon fibre roof, performance seats and a few other bits
including heated steering wheel. </font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3"> </font></span><font size="3">I made
it at least £77k.</font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3"> </font></span><font size="3">The black paint was
not in good condition and it was registered to Jaguar UK.<o></o></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">

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</font><p ="Msonormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Few thoughts/ questions:<o></o></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">

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</span></span></span><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">The noise!</font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3">
</font></span><font size="3">The standard engine sound is lovely but the switchable exhaust wow!</font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3"> </font></span><font size="3">I only turned it off on motorways where it is
boomy.<o></o></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">

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</span></span></span><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Very usable.</font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3">
</font></span><font size="3">It can drive in a very relaxed manner or at time felt like a race car.<o></o></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">

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</span></span></span><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">People slow down, stare, smile €“ generally they
love it!<o></o></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">

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</span></span></span><font face="Calibri" size="3">The noise in tunnels </font><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Wingdings; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-char-: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings;"><span style="mso-char-: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings;">J</span></span><o></o></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">

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</span></span></span><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Is there much difference between the V6 and
V6S?</font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3"> </font></span><font size="3">On paper am I going to notice 10nm
and 40 bhp?<o></o></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">

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</span></span></span><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">Is there much difference between RWD and AWD?</font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3"> </font></span><font size="3">I was quite surprised the backend went out on
a slightly greasy roundabout even with the AWD and moderate throttle.<o></o></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">

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</span></span></span><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Should I try the V8R?<o></o></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">

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</span></span></span><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">It does feel wide particularly driving it into
London and from London (pick up near Gloucester Road tube).</font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3"> </font></span><font size="3">My neighbours must love me for starting it
at 05:10am this morning!<o></o></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">

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</span></span></span><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">First car I have ever driven where the wheel
arches are as wide as the mirrors.</font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font size="3"> </font></span><font size="3">Makes
parking and getting into a garage difficult€¦<o></o></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">

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</span></span></span><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">It used £84 of petrol to do the 410 miles!<o></o></font></font></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">

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[ajbh]

hehe that's how a lot of us started, I hired twice from there and then found myself spending 8k more than I meant to, to get one of my own I haven't had any trouble with the rear end on the RWD but I came out of 10 years in a lightweight upgraded RWD jap coupe with no traction control at all so am fairly light footed by instinct nowadays.<div> </div><div>Try the v8r, but it may not be for you, I knew within a few miles it wasn't for me but it is better to know, that to always be pining for the next model up. I really wouldn't swap mine for one even if someone offered to do it for free.</div><div> </div><div>The parking gets better, but erm not much ;o) It's definitely not the easiest car to manoeuvre through tight gaps - width restrictions are definitely wince inducing as are standard garage doors.</div><div> </div><div>Think of the petrol use as an opportunity to stop and meet other drivers who will want to talk to you about your car It's a very sociable vehicle generally - a cyclist stopped by me yesterday not to yell at my slightly-into-the-main-road-and-thus-bike-lane nose, but to compliment me on the car; This is a genuine London first </div><div> </div><div>Go on, you know you want one!</div><div> </div><div>Jess</div>

 

[ronniet]

If you're waiting fora 35k car you'll have a long wait or it will be very high mileage and been thrashed

 

[ajbh]

High mileage better than no f at all there are a few around sub 40k now, though not many.

 

[MOz]

Massive difference between the base model and the S. <br /><br />Adaptive dynamics being the biggest one, mech ltd slip diff etc. <br /><br />I think you might find a base model coupe for £40k in 12 months, maybe even an S. After all, in 2017 the launch cars become 3 years old so the no warranty traders will start to emerge. Rule of thumb is (most) cars halve in value retail-wise after 3 years (my loaded S would be £80k if I bought it new now, it cost me £40). <br /><br />Personally, upping my used budget by £3.5k has got me a dealer supplied S as opposed to a base car. <br /><br />Best of luck finding a V8 coupe in budget though. Everyone knows it's inferior to the V6S anyway. <img src="http://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/images/converted_files/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> <edited><editID>MOz</editID><editDate>2016-10-11 07:22:37</editDate></edited>

 

[jimbobc]

<blockquote>
hehe that's how a lot of us started, I hired twice from there and then found myself spending 8k more than I meant to, to get one of my own I haven't had any trouble with the rear end on the RWD but I came out of 10 years in a lightweight upgraded RWD jap coupe with no traction control at all so am fairly light footed by instinct nowadays.<div> </div><div>Try the v8r, but it may not be for you, I knew within a few miles it wasn't for me but it is better to know, that to always be pining for the next model up. I really wouldn't swap mine for one even if someone offered to do it for free.</div><div> </div><div>The parking gets better, but erm not much ;o) It's definitely not the easiest car to manoeuvre through tight gaps - width restrictions are definitely wince inducing as are standard garage doors.</div><div> </div><div>Think of the petrol use as an opportunity to stop and meet other drivers who will want to talk to you about your car It's a very sociable vehicle generally - a cyclist stopped by me yesterday not to yell at my slightly-into-the-main-road-and-thus-bike-lane nose, but to compliment me on the car; This is a genuine London first </div><div> </div><div>Go on, you know you want one!</div><div> </div><div>Jess</div></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>I think I will try the V8R but I hear the traction is limited. I also know what you mean about the garage. We have I think a standard door with a 225cm opening and the car is 192.3cm not much room for manoeuvre !</div><div><br></div><div>Your right I do want one!</div>

 

[jimbobc]

<blockquote>Massive difference between the base model and the S. <br><br>Adaptive dynamics being the biggest one, mech ltd slip diff etc. <br><br>I think you might find a base model coupe for £40k in 12 months, maybe even an S. After all, in 2017 the launch cars become 3 years old so the no warranty traders will start to emerge. Rule of thumb is (most) cars halve in value retail-wise after 3 years (my loaded S would be £80k if I bought it new now, it cost me £40). <br><br>Personally, upping my used budget by £3.5k has got me a dealer supplied S as opposed to a base car. <br><br>Best of luck finding a V8 coupe in budget though. Everyone knows it's inferior to the V6S anyway. <img src="http://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/images/converted_files/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> </blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks for this and I agree you are right uping my budget from e.g. £35k to £45k would make a world of difference. For example 4 weeks ago I spoke to a Jag dealer in Scotland who offered me a well spec'd V8S in IRR 3 years old for £45k. The benefit of which was just 6600 miles and off course the 2 year warranty. It also had the service pack. But £35k would only get me a base 3.0 with probably 30k miles.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

 

[ajbh]

I didnt find the v8r difficult to handle btw, traction seemed fine to me, it just felt heavier in the bends and needed to be going a ton to get the noise i like my license!

 

[Tel]

Interstingly, in this months' Jaguar World, they say - The AWD F-Type V8R ''detracts from the nimbleness of the RWD due to the extra 500Kgs''<div>''The handling feels laden, heavy and slow to respond, unlike the fast, dart-like sports car experience that the previous V8s had given''</div><div><br></div><div>However when I read that the writer reckons that the RWD is ''like a box of frogs craziness'' his credibility and understanding seems to have been blown out of the window! ;-)</div>

 

[Megatron]

I've driven both the RWD and AWD V8R and to be honest struggled to tell the difference on the road even at test drive levels of enthusiasm. I don't agree with that writer's opinion. Sure on the track the extra weight will make a difference...but I did feel the AWD made the power delivery a bit more civilised and all year useable; 500+ bhp definitely has to be respected. For that reason I bought an AWD! But it's still twitchy.