Service in Castle Bromwich - Should this be a concern?

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Roo

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Currently looking at deal on KR22 TDU (SAJDA1AE9PCK80347)

This address was flagged on the service record, and I'm unsure as to whether this is a Jag head office, or an experience day location. Keep reading different things when searching , and thought someone on here might know more.
Cheers for any thoughts.

MVO - CB
B35 7RA
United Kingdom

https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/how-to-get-to-jaguar-land-rover-castle-bromwich
 
Have to say, having recently had some background checks done courtesy of and thanks to simpleR, there are some “interesting” 21 and 22 plate cars coming up for sale at dealers lately.

Often not showing number of previous owners in the advert and maybe missing the online PDI, or with it not done at a dealer.

They seem to be coming to the dealers through closed auction or similar.

Well worth checking out disc condition and front end alignment quality I would say, along with running the VIN through the online service history to see where it’s been.
 
Jaguar used to use V plate or occasionally O plate cars for experience, press related events.

Google F-Type Fen End or F-Type Goodwood or F-Type Ice Academy etc and then go to images.

Recently these have changed to KN, KS, KR on 22 and 23 plates. Example
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1553341641609681

Unfortunately Jaguar won't tell you what it was used for or by, probably because they don't know, so unless someone posted a pic online which Google finds it is near impossible to find out.
 
The dealer couldn’t get proof of the PDI on the one car, only that “I’m sure it’s been done”.

simpleR pointed out that part of the PDI is to code the keys to the car/VIN, without which you can clone one from the OBD port.

This sounds much the same as with the original cars, before they had a security interface module added to prevent that action, and why owners of earlier models should always disable or lock the OBD port - also to prevent dealers doing a noise reduction sw action.

The other car I looked at was PDI by a non-Jaguar company at Bruntingthorpe, so may well have been a Fen End car - and anyone having done that experience day knows how those cars are driven 😂

It’s not just the scoring of discs, it’s the unseen things such as heat cycling, suspension loading and likely not warmed up to operating temperature before revving the engine out.

All the dealer would tell me on that one was that it was a multi-(ab)user car.
 
Lunar said:
165 point inspection used approved car anyone?
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Yikes.

Although the 165 point inspection covers...

120 Brake lines and couplings
123 Brake Pad Thickness (6mm pad material min.)
124 Brake Rotor Thickness (50% of wear limit)
125 Brake fluid
148 Brake pedal
149 ABS braking system
150 Emergency brake

There is nothing on there for scored, rust and grooves in discs. Oddly. Presumably you buy the car, notice it or gets picked up at next service/MOT and you pay yourself for replacements! LOL.

What would cause a disc to end up like that after under 2 years and a few thousand miles? Is that a sign of a hard life, heavy braking or standing around unused?
 
The cars used at Goodwood would need a new set of rear tyres and diff as they spend their days sideways on the ‘Drift Experience’
 
Kev said:
The cars used at Goodwood would need a new set of rear tyres and diff as they spend their days sideways on the ‘Drift Experience’
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From what I recall when I was there they replace the tyres pretty often during the day! So just a diff, then?
 
Cool! I'll continue digging. Hopefully the car is arriving next week, and I'm tempted to put a deposit down.

The whole topic of brakes disc health got me down another research path :) Suppose these are the things I need to make a list of before I see the car in the flesh.

Hard to tell from the only image they have online.... but these don't look any worse than the ones on my Transporter atm.

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Roo said:
Cool! I'll continue digging. Hopefully the car is arriving next week, and I'm tempted to put a deposit down.

The whole topic of brakes disc health got me down another research path :) Suppose these are the things I need to make a list of before I see the car in the flesh.

Hard to tell from the only image they have online.... but these don't look any worse than the ones on my Transporter atm.
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That image suggests the car has stood around a wet and windy forecourt before being moved around a few yards each time?
As you say, though, not easy to tell from an online picture - needs a visual check to confirm. 👍
 
Don't be too concerned about rust on the surface. Jaguar disks go rust coloured faster than any car I've ever owned. Wash the car on a cold day and they'll have a bloom of rust before you can finish drying it.
I would would be bothered about deep scoring indicating typically hard driving above the ability of the discs and pads to cope, although less likely worn out pads can do it too. Take a look after a short drive and feel the disks (when cold enough) for a big lip on the outer edge, deeper scoring and visibly look at the pads for wear. All strong bargaining points.
 
Top tips :) thanks!

This is all super useful for when I finally get to see it.

Actually on that point, is there any sticky guide on this forum for buyers tips - top faults to check for, that kinda thing? I have a browse through some of the posts but couldn’t see a sticky thread.
 
Been on the hunt for an F-Type R for a while and agree with some of the 'interesting' cars comment that are coming up for sale.

Whilst I don't have my own F-Type of my own, YET, me and friends have used 'The Out' to rent F-Types for various trips & events.

One is currently listed that we took to Scotland last year, KP22 ECW, that I enjoyed driving for a week, but would for sure not buy! Do these kinds of rental cars show up on the vehicle history? As when they come up for sale they have ~15k miles, but they are 15k HARD miles! Also used KN21 LFX before, again with 'The Out'.
 
lledwoc said:
One is currently listed that we took to Scotland last year, KP22 ECW, that I enjoyed driving for a week. As when they come up for sale they have ~15k miles, but they are 15k HARD miles! Also used KN21 LFX before, again with 'The Out'.
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KP22ECW is car 78971. This was provided via C Walton at Bruntingthorpe Proving Ground. It was returned via a BCA Closed JLR auction and purchased by Stratstone Jaguar Service Centre, Tottenham as used approved, serviced and sold.

Edit - https://www.theout.com/post/a-road-trip-route-to-north-norfolk
 
Roo said:
Top tips :) thanks!

This is all super useful for when I finally get to see it.

Actually on that point, is there any sticky guide on this forum for buyers tips - top faults to check for, that kinda thing? I have a browse through some of the posts but couldn’t see a sticky thread.
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No sticky thread.
IMHO it's probably not worth it with 11 years of models across 3 main engine derivatives and countless variants across, AWD, diffs. brakes, roadster/coupe, etc. there would be so many different things to consider in broadbrush as to render it confusing and useless for a specific car
 
Cheers Scott.

Makes you wonder how many cared for new plate cars there are Used Approved at present!
 
Did they have F-Pace SVRs at the Jaguar Experience at Fen End (or elsewhere)?

My F-Pace SVR KT23... in Ultra Blue has just had a new diff at 13k, having previously had new rear tyres under warranty to cure a vibration. Also 2 pieces of loose wheelarch trim which revealed side repairs.
The service history shows:
Oct 2022 PDI at C Walton Ltd LE17 5QS (Bruntingthorpe) yet it wasn't registered until June 2023
Aug 2024 service at MVO-CB (i.e. the factory)
I bought it in Feb 2025 as an approved used Jaguar with 1 owner (Jaguar).

It's now fixed and it is in immaculate condition, but I can't help but wonder what it was used for when it was owned by Jaguar
 
impreza280 said:
Did they have F-Pace SVRs at the Jaguar Experience at Fen End (or elsewhere)?

My F-Pace SVR KT23... in Ultra Blue has just had a new diff at 13k, having previously had new rear tyres under warranty to cure a vibration. Also 2 pieces of loose wheelarch trim which revealed side repairs.
The service history shows:
Oct 2022 PDI at C Walton Ltd LE17 5QS (Bruntingthorpe) yet it wasn't registered until June 2023
Aug 2024 service at MVO-CB (i.e. the factory)
I bought it in Feb 2025 as an approved used Jaguar with 1 owner (Jaguar).
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Update: The diff has not cured the issue and I've given up with Stratstone Reading as they've had 3 goes to fix it and their post fix test drive was clearly not done appropriately. It's now at another dealer and after 2 days they've raised a TA i.e. called in the Technical Assistance team. I've got 16 days before I have to drive it 200 miles to start the rejection process.

What was it used for at Jaguar I wonder? Fen End? Ice Academy in Sweden? Goodwood Drift Experiences?

MY FIRST AND LAST JAGUAR
 
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