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My collection of the SVR next week is on hold.
Finally had the service history through from the dealer (Sytner) and the first service of this one was late 2018 at Copart which is a salvage auction house?

Anyone have access to salvage data? Im pretty annoyed, they’ve offered to return my deposit
 
Car 42552
This was a Jaguar owned car (V plate gives that away).

These won't have any PDI record and they only typically use COPART when the car was used abroad such as at Ice Driving in Sweden, track use etc and COPART pick them up. These will also typically miss the first service as they won't come back to the UK until they are finished with them.

Edit - for example
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1104431_we-go-spanish-flying-in-the-200-mph-126945-jaguar-f-type-svr-first-drive-review

All these cars run without reg plates .
 
Why would JLR use a company that specialises in salvage to service a £130,000 car while in warranty!
So avoid any ring with a V reg is the advice? Difficult because I love the car and spec but 2 years and 16000 miles with no maintenance is a red flag
 
V plates are Jaguar cars PDI at factory.
O plates are Paragon Fleet Solutions.

Neither should be avoided. There are some really good ones out there. And likewise some bad ones no doubt.
 
I can see why you'd be annoyed. I don't have any issue with what Jaguar do with cars under their ownership, how hard they are run (track, press cars or much better, kept as static demo's like many Project 7's).

What is close to fraudulent is that they, or the dealer don't declare this full history when it reaches the dealer network for the public to buy. I'd probably place the majority of the blame at the door of the dealer. They will know where it came from and have tried to pass it off, hiding behind sales reps that always claim they know nothing about the car other than spec and price
 
cj10jeeper said:
I can see why you'd be annoyed. I don't have any issue with what Jaguar do with cars under their ownership, how hard they are run (track, press cars or much better, kept as static demo's like many Project 7's).

What is close to fraudulent is that they, or the dealer don't declare this full history when it reaches the dealer network for the public to buy. I'd probably place the majority of the blame at the door of the dealer. They will know where it came from and have tried to pass it off, hiding behind sales reps that always claim they know nothing about the car other than spec and price
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I agree. There was plenty of opportunity for them to disclose this and they didn’t, the car also appears to have had a prep for sale service in April at a Sytner dealer 130 miles away, which also seems unusual.
 
Unfortunately there's always a number of iffy cars up for sale, which tend to go round the trade, moving on every couple of months to a new forecourt.

When looking for an SVR, I found that cars with good history seemed to be in the minority, as these probably get sold fairly quickly, leaving the dross circulating.

Quite a lot were missing services early on, which on a 100k car is odd. But it might be that people got them on a PCP/leaae for a bit of fun with no intention of keeping them. Then there's the press/experience cars which as SimpleR mentioned, will be missing documentation albeit it's very likely to have been maintained quite well.

The Paragon/Copart cars can be OK, as a number of people have them on here with zero issue. Only a minority will have been Tiff Needell's Thruxton doughnuts car (watch out for a green one), it's just hard to identify these 100%.

Good luck with your search, a good car will come up (there's 400 manufactured out there to choose from when they come up for sale).
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simpleR said:
Car 42552
This was a Jaguar owned car (V plate gives that away).

These won't have any PDI record and they only typically use COPART when the car was used abroad such as at Ice Driving in Sweden, track use etc and COPART pick them up. These will also typically miss the first service as they won't come back to the UK until they are finished with them.

Edit - for example
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1104431_we-go-spanish-flying-in-the-200-mph-126945-jaguar-f-type-svr-first-drive-review

All these cars run without reg plates .
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I spoke to Copart today and they have no record of what was done with the car back in 2018, After it was with Copart the car didn't really move for 2 more years until 2020.. @simpleR does that make sense? can you see when the ownership changed from Jag to private as there's little logic to it with the dealers it's been to
 
The service history suggests that when COPART had it back it then went to a dealer via Paragon Fleet Solutions.

It has also been on a private plate at some point and does not return number of previous owners.

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If you are interested I would recommend an independent check like car vertical etc (as that would also tell you what other plates it has been on).

Sorry. Cannot help.
 
simpleR said:
The service history suggests that when COPART had it back it then went to a dealer via Paragon Fleet Solutions.

It has also been on a private plate at some point and does not return number of previous owners.

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If you are interested I would recommend an independent check like car vertical etc (as that would also tell you what other plates it has been on).

Sorry. Cannot help.
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B13 ATD - that's now on an SVR RR Sport - coincides with it going back into dealer network
 
That plate appears here on another car in Stockport following an arson attack. (With windows smashed in).

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simpleR said:
That plate appears here on another car in Stockport following an arson attack. (With windows smashed in).

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Blimey, if I ever loose my wallet again I’m calling you before I even think of where to start looking!
 
I cannot help with wallets.

I can help with VIN numbers, location, service history, PNC checks and F-Type history including online searches.

Good luck with the search.
 
I’ve spoken to Copart SVO and the first dealer to have the car in and it’s much more reassuring, there’s about 20 of them in the SVO team which is entirely separate to the salvage/auction side and has a direct relationship with JLR. They’ve offered to get the invoice out of the archive and send a copy over as well. First jag garage to see it has new plates on the record which fits in with it being a press car.
 
Collected the car Friday, they’re taking it back tomorrow. 5 days of ownership - maybe a forum record?
Safe to say, in my opinion, there’s something amiss with this car.
 
You seemed very keen to take it despite the multiple red flags.

Why are you returning it? Will help the next potential owner.
 
simpleR said:
You seemed very keen to take it despite the multiple red flags.

Why are you returning it? Will help the next potential owner.
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Initially my only concern was the Copart service stamp, however after finding out it remained in JLR ownership till 2020 and speaking to Copart SVO it cleared up quickly it wasn't auctioned there or salvaged, all the V car checks were fine bar a small mileage discrepancy some years ago.

On collection the car looked good in the handover room, in all fairness the paint work on all panels is fine, on handover i noticed the leather on the drivers seat had come away under the trim (no excessive wear on the bolsters etc though) and said i'd take it in locally to be rectified.

On the journey home the carpet in the drivers footwell against the centre console slumped into the pedal area, both tweeter covers worked loose from their housings and sat about 1cm out of the seal, when pushed back in they just came out again

When home and giving the car it's first wash I noticed the rear tyres were miss matched, the rear diffuser had been held up with tape on the right hand side which came off with the the wash, the roof seal between the carbon and the black trim at the rear was split and perished along the whole length, rear window seal perished

Both door seals fell out while rubbing some quick detailer over the kick plates, drivers side so much it was then trapping under the door.

Paint overspray on the front end into the gloss black grille trim on both sides, more on the right than the left.

Discussions with the dealer concluded they wouldn't be able to rectify that list of issues as they were "simply commensurate with age" and today the car was collected and returned.

My point to JLR was if it's not a retail car don't retail it, and if it is a retail car why would the new owner need to glue things back into place?

All in all a huge was of time and money.
 
Interesting. There was another SVR that was returned via COPART from Estoril race track with damage. That also had a damaged defuser held on with tie wraps.

As this one had some overspray, presumably from a repair job, I wonder if it had some damage and some interior was removed as well and just not put back properly.

Hope your next search goes better.
 
I think the SVR dream might remain just that - I’d also been looking at the Mercedes AMG-GTS but the average there appears to be either 8 owners or one owner that forgot to ever service it! Bonkers..

I am drawn to this car though..

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303085040450
 
Car 67816
The reg is not found on Jaguar system at all so cannot get the full VIN. There is no DVLA cherished code showing on PNC but I can see it has been on a different number plate previously. This would suggest it has been on a private plate previously but not been serviced at Jaguar since the plate changed.
 
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