Hi guys from bavaria germany

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Markusd

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:DServus :) , hi at all.

I am markus, 34, frim germany and in the bavarian part of it. I am an owner of one of the latest f type v6 cabriolet p340 chequered flag edition.
I had liked to bought a f type earlier, but my wife and i decided to buy a steyr 12m18 offroad motorhome before.


Yes it has the opf/gpf but the exhaust is good. For my model which is 2019 it is the best sound within the fuse f15 and the tubes off from the valves. So they are definitely open. When you pull f15 and press the exhaust button it wants to get louder but it recognices that the fuse is out in the software.
Hope i get some infos about the f type if i had questions and so on.

So, nice to be here.
Best regards,
Markus
 

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Markusd said:
Yes it has the opf/gpf but the exhaust is good. For my model which is 2019 it is the best sound within the fuse f15 and the tubes off from the valves. So they are definitely open. When you pull f15 and press the exhaust button it wants to get louder but it recognices that the fuse is out in the software.
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Welcome to the club!

AIUI, pulling fuse 15 lets the valves be open all the time - the exhaust button should have no effect and it should be as loud as it gets.

Enjoy your car! :D
 
Yes you´re right, but if pull of the tubes of the vacuum holded valves there´s one thing on top.

You can try it on yourself. If i pull F15 and drive in D - mode and about 3000 rpm press the exhaust button you can hear the difference it´s wants to get more bass for a few seconds but it regocnized, that the f15 is pulled and don´t make the sound more volume.
Then it makes no diffierence to dynamic and D-mode switching.

If i put in the F15 for the system all is ok, and when i press the button its more powerfull sound, but the vaccump pump doesn´t do anything because of the pulled of tubes on the valves. :)
 
Hi Markusd, I´ll will answer your question in German because we are both of this nationalitiy.

Es gibt keinen legalen Weg, Deinen F-Type lauter zu machen, jedoch einen illegalen mithilfe eines speziellen Einbausatzes, was gegenüber Hardware-Veränderungen (Auspuff- bzw. KAT-Veränderungen) den Vorteil hat, dass es schwerer zu entdecken ist. Wenn Du daran interessiert bist, lass es mich per PN (hier: "Private Messages") wissen, ich sende Dir dann einen Link. Und: Nein, ich bekomme keine Provision und würde das selbst nicht machen. Aber das muss natürlich jeder selbst entscheiden.

Grüße

catfreak
 
catfreak said:
Hi Markusd, I´ll will answer your question in German because we are both of this nationalitiy.
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For the benefit of the majority on here (this is a UK site, after all) can you also provide the answer in English, please?
 
I guess if you’re not adapting the exhaust or cat, and it’s hard to uncover, then it’s some form of software defeat system.
There are certainly people around who can modify the sw - enable dual climate, cruise control etc. - so I’m sure there are ways and means if people want to make these illegal backwards changes.
Fortunately I’m not in a position to need to, but if my car had been quietened by a dealer sw change without my permission I’d be royally pissed off with them - especially as dealers are not allowed by JLR to reverse any sw changes applied.
 
The US site has more discussion on the active exhaust for the later cars.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f-type-x152-72/2021-f-type-r-issues-solved-fuse-15-a-252355/page3/

quotes:

"The engineering/design of these exhaust valves is relatively simple...at rest, when the engine is off, they are wide open. They are designed to be spring loaded "open", period. The engine at start will have the valves remain open until the valving starts to close them. Pounding on the accelerator, running in dynamic, normal or any mode, modulates the valving and it will be 100% open during some hard acceleration and RPM, partially open at lower RPM and essentially closed at "no load" conditions (cruising down the road at 35mph, or 50mph, etc., in high gear, for example). Pulling that #15 fuse neutralizes that valving (it can not function), so the baffle stays wide open (spring loaded open) at all times. That can never happen if that valving is functioning....that baffle just keeps flipping around in your exhaust pipe, regardless of the drive mode."

However, I think the simulated exhaust from the sound system is disabled with the removal of the fuse. The exhaust sounds less....deep. Still reasonably deep, but Cgo's charactarization of "raucous" is apt. There's a little less baritone (I suspect due to the Meridian system not injecting deep baritone sound anymore), but more overall volume and raspy growl with the pops and burbles when you're on your way down from 3500 rpm.
 
Hmm, do the latest F-Types come with fake exhaust sound or did someone just confuse it with the symposer based engine noise (which certainly doesn't add any depth) they all had up until the other year?
 
scm said:
catfreak said:
Hi Markusd, I´ll will answer your question in German because we are both of this nationalitiy.
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For the benefit of the majority on here (this is a UK site, after all) can you also provide the answer in English, please?
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Short summary: There is no legal way in Germany to make a new F-Type louder but an "illegal" way. I offered Markusd a link where he could get the necessary equipment for this purpose. If he agrees, I would send the link as a "Private Message". I don´t receive a commision for this ;) and I would not do something like this by myself or recommend to do this.

Regards

catfreak
 
Wow!
Sorry for the late answer, i would only to introduce mayself but thats amazing.
Thanks at all for the comments.
I am in a german f type forum too, but there are only a few new messages at a week or 2.
@catfreak thanks for your answer. I will think about it, but thats a modifiying with some risks and so on….
I will hvae a look tomorrow morning about the exhaust sound, but it could be that it is only a fake exhaust sound in dynamic or with f 15 is removed when you switch to the exhaust button.
 
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