Diesel F Type...

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Kiwanja

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Has anyone else heard there may be a diesel 2ltr f type on route..<div><br></div><div>https://www.carthrottle.com/post/it-looks-like-a-four-cylinder-diesel-jaguar-f-type-is-coming/?utm_source=carthrottle-rssfeed&utm_medium=rss</div><div><br></div><div>What's your thoughts? <img src="http://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/images/converted_files/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0" alt="Confused" title="Confused" /></div>
 
Coupe yes. Good looking mile muncher with stupid torque and cheap to run. <br /><br />Convertible - rubbish idea.
 
Diesel has had its day. Over complicated, too much pollution control and cost a fortune when needed to be fixed.<div><br></div><div>I've had a few diesels but wouldn't have another anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>In an F-Type - laughable.</div>
 
Try the 2.0 Diesel in the XE. It's a very refined unit. I don't think you would notice it was a diesel.<br><br>...but that said...I can't imagine the points of reason for putting a diesel unit in an F-Type. Makes no sense to me.<br><br>By all means introduce a petrol/electric hybrid, but a diesel??<br>
 
Modern 2 litre diesels are very good - certainly in Jag, Merc, and BMW, all of which I have driven. Obviously they are built to fit into lower company car tax bands. I don't know what the NO emissions are like but unless these can drastically be reduced in a short time, diesels are on the way out. Wholly electric cars will not be the norm for many years as we have insufficient generating capacity to charge them all and if you run out of "juice" you just can't top them up from your spare can. A diesel F type would dilute the quality of the breed and make it less of a sports car. It might be ok in a smaller body shell - an SLK equivalent perhaps?
 
Its not how good the engines are for me and i have driven the XE diesel for 2 weeks. Its the level of pollution control - egr valves (which effectively shove crappy air back into the engine) catalysts, DPF filters, blue liquid stuff etc etc. <div><br></div><div><br></div><div>All of which when go wrong cost a fortune, sludge the engine up and are unreliable when in higher miles.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
 
I guess it comes down to market forces. If there is a demand then they will plug the gap. Personally I can't see it and if offered the choice I wouldn't have one. It just seems wrong to me.
 
The last thing us current owners want is 'budget' versions of the F-Type flooding the market.<br><br>As Phil pointed out...diluting the brand image and purpose of the F-Type would be a huge mistake for Jaguar going forward. <br>
 
<blockquote> The last thing us current owners want is 'budget' versions of the F-Type flooding the market.<br /><br />As Phil pointed out...diluting the brand image and purpose of the F-Type would be a huge mistake for Jaguar going forward. <br /></blockquote> <br /><br />Couldn't agree more. I absolutely love the car but it wouldn't be as special anymore if they bring out a cheap (petrol or diesel) budget alternative that removes the rarity and special feel of owning a sports car like the F-type. I don't care if this makes me sound like a snob!
 
I hope not. the thing about f types to me is that they provide the sensation of an exotic car with an engine selection to suit that (if you know what I mean).<br />A diesel variety in the range knocks it down a peg from toying with the Aston Martin range to now toying with the Audi TT/BMW Z4 range. I can't really explain. I guess it's just diluting the range and current range perception too much.<br /><br />You can get away with it in the likes of the F Pace or other, but in this car I think not. I think the rumoured 4 cylinder petrol to rival Porsche should be the furthest they go.<br /><br />I hope you are reading these boards JLR. You should be as part of your market research.<br /><br />
 
I'm not sure a change in engine will make the F Type a budget model. After all, Porsche have replaced all their 6s with blown 4s (although not an oil burner unless you count the awesome Panamera Diesel) yet no one has suggested they've gone all "budget". <br /><br />As wrong as the soundtrack would be you cannot ignore the issues smaller, more efficient engines are introduced to solve. I'm not saying I like it, it's inevitable sadly.
 
<blockquote>I hope not. the thing about f types to me is that they provide the sensation of an exotic car with an engine selection to suit that (if you know what I mean).<br>A diesel variety in the range knocks it down a peg from toying with the Aston Martin range to now toying with the Audi TT/BMW Z4 range. I can't really explain. I guess it's just diluting the range and current range perception too much.<br><br>You can get away with it in the likes of the F Pace or other, but in this car I think not. I think the rumoured 4 cylinder petrol to rival Porsche should be the furthest they go.<br><br>I hope you are reading these boards JLR. You should be as part of your market research.<br><br></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>I agree, I did look at the Aston Martin range and thought I made the right choice but makes me wonder now. Time will tell i guess, when your sold a "premium" car it should stay that way and not be diluted by the prospect of Jaguar making profits of mass produced cars. ( Don't think Aston Martin would do this to their customers)</div>
 
Just came across these images showing that Jaguar thought about creating a four door E-Type, but it was developed further and eventually became the XJ6.<br><br>Lets hope that Jaguar don't forget where the 'F' comes from and keeps to the ethos of a true sports car!<br><br><img src="http://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/images/converted_files/uploads/577/ftrew1.jpg" height="341" width="600" border="0" /><br><img src="http://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/images/converted_files/uploads/577/ftrew2.jpg" height="300" width="600" border="0" /><br><br>
 
Interesting question Howard.<br><br>Would you choose a diesel over a petrol powered F-Type if the performance figures were generally similar?<br><br>One would assume that the fuel consumption was better in the diesel equivalent, so the annual fuel bill might tip the scales for some folk I suppose.<br><br>My own personal view is that of 'driving theater' 'and motoring nostalgia' are the key reasons why I would opt for a petrol powered F-Type for the weekend and a diesel car for the working week.<br>
 
I don't thing you could inject DERV into the exhaust to make it pop and crackle on the overrun! Otherwise I would have been happy to have driven a diesel powered sports car because modern diesels are so good. The problem is that diesel is now going down the road to being antisocial like smoking, drink driving and excessive speed. We do have a diesel 4x4 but when it comes to changing it will probably be to a petrol/hybrid.
 
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