Brake Refresh

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cj10jeeper

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At my last service the garage indicated that several of the brake ferrules were corroded and likely an MOT advisory next MOT (March) Trusted garage for 30+ years so no issues there.
Given the disks look a bit naff and the car is 11 years old I’m looking re refresh all parts back to the ferrules, or further if I find corrosion.
Not looking to sand, paint coat or otherwise bits of exposed or corroded ferrules.

Questions:

Plain or dimpled/slotted, etc.? I prefer the look with slots or dimples (not drilled) but in the past I’ve had terrible droning when braking on a Z4 so am erring towards plain. Anyone with them fitted and running silently?

Rotor manufacturer suggestion? Looking at Brembo or Meyle. Any suggestions as market is awash with cheap rotors or high end varying form £30 each to £200.. Larger 380mm fronts so limited Availability on some makes. Prefer coated to prevent some corrosion.

Pads - not decided but normal road use with low dust. Used EBC in past but out of stock. Any recommendations, but not looking for fast road, track, pseudo ceramics, etc.

Replace the original OEM brake hoses (not cheap :( ), or get a set of braided from Goodyear? Used latter on extreme articulation Jeeps and very good, but not used on road cars. Not looking to improve performance, but must be like for like and location point proper connections, clips, etc.

Anyone any experience or source for the ferrules and oem brake pipes aside JLR. I’m perfectly OK making my own pipes and connections and have the kit, just need spec. Fitting type to make up pipe sections but to some extent feel the Jag deserves neat fitted pipes, not approximate bends..

Finally a decent online parts catalogue link/ reference as the ones I’ve used before now only have classic jags listed.

Much appreciate thoughts and not urgent project as I’ll do it section at a time over the coming cold weeks..
 
I’d go for Goodridge hoses as you can also get them with different coloured over-sleeves. Discs and pads I’ve always stuck with Pagid as they’re a manufacturer and not rebadging someone else’s product, plus they have heritage and supply as OE
 
Kev said:
I’d go for Goodridge hoses as you can also get them with different coloured over-sleeves. Discs and pads I’ve always stuck with Pagid as they’re a manufacturer and not rebadging someone else’s product, plus they have heritage and supply as OE
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Thanks Kev - very helpful.
Have you used Goodridge on the F Type as I'd like to ensure they are like for like replacement, length, fitting, etc.? Was easy on the Jeep as they were just super long hoses with no concern about OEM fitment points.
I've seen Pagid recommended on here by many, so I'll look at those.
 
I put Goodridge hoses on my Transit Custom earlier this year and they make them bespoke to whichever vehicle you like as they have a list of all the various fittings and lengths. I got them from Carnoisseur (some of you may remember their paper based catalogues and adverts in magazines from years ago) as they offered best value. I think it took longer to bleed the brakes than fit them as you need software (I use ForScan) to bleed each circuit by activating the ABS pump but I did this so I knew the age of the fluid
 
Mtec brake rotors are good, and I would recommend the coated black ones, a bit noisy at first till the coating comes of the braking face. Wife has slotted and drilled on her mx5 and no issues with noise. The black coating is good as the rust does not appear on the disk anywhere. Also after washing the face does not rust as much as the standard Jag disks on the f type.
 
gazzaaitken said:
Mtec brake rotors are good, and I would recommend the coated black ones, a bit noisy at first till the coating comes of the braking face. Wife has slotted and drilled on her mx5 and no issues with noise. The black coating is good as the rust does not appear on the disk anywhere. Also after washing the face does not rust as much as the standard Jag disks on the f type.
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Thanks
Very helpful lead on the MTEC discs. Agree re coatings as that’s a requirement I’d prefer to stick with.
 
Just by way of an update that may be helpful as I'm working through placing orders for all the parts.

Pagid brakes are often referenced on here and spoken of highly, so was looking at them alongside other, but the price for the 380mm fronts and 325mm rears (Performance Brakes) is around £237, however Halfords have them on offer at £138 both sets inc. P&P
The fronts alone on the big sites are £175 so a great saving if anyone needs some.
 
NaCl said:
Hi cj10, do you have a link to the Pagid brakes on Halford's website? TIA.
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Sure:
Drop down from each link on the page to see spec to ensure a match

For the 380mm fronts:
https://www.halfords.com/search?q=Pagid+Brake+Pads+101631978

325mm rears
https://www.halfords.com/search?q=Pagid+Brake+Pads+101631988

You can of course just put in your registration and it should give you the matches, but if like me you may want to cross check against other sites given how many brake options JLR offered, or an online parts catalogue to get the exact year, model, brake spec. you may be safer..
 
Finished my small January project of replacing all 4 disks, pads and flexible hoses. Repainted the calipers, added Jaguar decals and changed all the brake fluid.

Went with:
MTEC black, grooved and dimpled disks
Pagid pads
OEM full braided hoses, using the 'Carbon brakes only' front versions, which are identical and only ones widely available for the 380mm set-up. The RHS just has the same extra bracket as used on the LHS to mount a sensor cable on.

Pleased as I had the time and saved more than £1k vs indy, used top or OEM products, but satisfaction of doing it myself on what's really and easy job.

No step by step guide, but if anyone needs any part numbers or info let me know.

Just one tip though that is seemingly not well known:
If you press the brake pedal an inch and hold it fixed there (piece of timber from pedal to the seat squab is adequate) then the brake fluid cannot drain out of open pipes when removing caliper or the flexibles. Mine were open for several hours at a time without a drip nor emptying the master cylinder, whilst calipers dried or parts fitted.

Rear pads were originals with c60k on them, fronts 50% worn on at least 2nd set. Disks all good, but some scoring and rusty. Flexibles showing age with corrosion mainly on brackets and tube sections, but all still serviceable. Flagged by my indy as likely advisory on a future MOT.

I think it looks better, but still needs some miles to clean the coating off the surface and the wheels need cleaning...

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CSGMART said:
Nice job.

Did you hand paint the callipers? Thinking of doing mine (unpainted currently).
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Thanks for the compliment
Strangely a bit of both for the painting.
The fronts are very visible and smooth surfaces and pressed steel covers, so they were stripped and sprayed. The rears have very rough unfinished castings which are visible in the photo but much more hidden, so I went with stripping down then brush painting.
In reality I could have done either as the finish using brake paint is very similar as it flows well.
 
cj10jeeper said:
CSGMART said:
Nice job.

Did you hand paint the callipers? Thinking of doing mine (unpainted currently).
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Thanks for the compliment
Strangely a bit of both for the painting.
The fronts are very visible and smooth surfaces and pressed steel covers, so they were stripped and sprayed. The rears have very rough unfinished castings which are visible in the photo but much more hidden, so I went with stripping down then brush painting.
In reality I could have done either as the finish using brake paint is very similar as it flows well.
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Cheers.
 
That looks awesome, makes such a difference, out of interest what calliper paint did select in the end. The disks definitely suit the car I think than standard ;-)

Part numbers like you mentioned would be a winner as I have a MY14 so would look to do the same job with it looking that sweet.
 
Thanks Yami

Went with Halfords which I've used for the last couple of decades on various cars with great success of colour and durability
1 can of each of aerosol and new tin of brush on. That kept the colour match.

I've attached an Excel which I used to keep control of the suppliers, part numbers, costs, etc. as I worked through what was a minefield of options, prices and availability

Hope it helps but please check every part to your VIN number

View attachment F Type Brakes.xlsx
 
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