Are we all looking forward to 2026 when Jaguar has a new car to sell?

[Lunar]

A bit surprised this hasn’t been mentioned yet, with the demise of the F-pace (in the UK), and as of last week Jaguar having zero cars in their portfolio.

I guess it might eventually ease the strain on the ongoing (still) JLR parts supply problems they can’t seem to shake, and the associated costs they continue to have to bear in courtesy cars.

It’s certainly a brave move - or maybe a case of soldiering on in the same direction until there’s light at the end of the tunnel.

Especially when other manufacturers are pushing back electrification plans.

At least it saves Jaguar from potential new car finance sale issues such as BMW are currently experiencing and not releasing customers’ cars that have been paid for and should have been delivered.

Ian Callum must be smiling at the coincidental release of a second C-X75 hybrid last week - that’s one very lucky owner!

Wouldn’t it be good if Callum developed a C-X16-like hybrid pack for the F-Type, complete with the push-to-pass button on the steering wheel (Andrew Noakes - Jaguar F-Type the Complete Story).

I guess we can all look forward to the new Jaguar electric (by name) )model range being announced in a year or so, complete with the latest wave of EU nanny tech that needs to be turned off each time.

And no doubt a new “upwardly mobile” pricing structure that reflects the need to generate strong cash income and offset the development costs.

No doubt there will be some whizzy re-branding and associated marketing BS, but I can’t help but feel that it’s a case of the end of an era and RIP for the true driver’s car.

You only have to look at the residuals on big electric Mercedes SUVs and cars like the Taycan to appreciate that not a lot of people want to drop considerable sums of money on such cars.

Let’s be thankful we are around to experience proper cars and really enjoy the drive!

 

[scm]

We can't really be looking forward to 2016? :lol: (Or do you have inside knowledge of an announcement at just after a quarter past eight tonight?)

But a good post, nevertheless, the end of an era indeed. My F-Type fobs will have to be prised from my cold dead fingers!.

 

[Lunar]

Fair point!

How about 2026 instead…

 

[scm]

Fair point!

How about 2026 instead…

Good to see you're not living in the past!

 

[Moss]

The European car manufacturing base seems in utter turmoil.
The pointers don’t look promising.
VW reporting three probable plant closures.
The EU talking about sanctioning Chinese-produced EVs.
UK government underwriting an Eu750million loan to Jaguar for EVs - whose major market is, yes, China?
UK and EU central governments doing their darnedest to kill what’s left of ICE-powered cars?

And, last week, I received an email from my local Jaguar dealer that they were going to sell two brands of Chinese-manufactured cars I’d never even heard of.
That’s one dealer at least that I just can’t see selling any more Jaguars in 2026.

 

[Cluck]

Personally, I have zero interest in what Jaguar is going to do on the car front as electric cars, especially luxury ones, are cars I couldn't care less about. I wish them luck though and for the sake of the many people that work for them, and all the suppliers that supply them, I hope their plans don't backfire badly.

 

[Moss]

Personally, I have zero interest in what Jaguar is going to do on the car front as electric cars, especially luxury ones, are cars I couldn't care less about. I wish them luck though and for the sake of the many people that work for them, and all the suppliers that supply them, I hope their plans don't backfire badly.

Feelings are mutual, but you can’t help but wonder what a complete clusterfcuk the whole EV charade has tuned into.
In the West, we’re on a mad, headlong rush to move away from carbon intensive industries and “go green” - yet we’re happy to be importing Chinese-made vehicles whose country’s copious outputs of CO2 are amongst the worst on the planet.

Am I the only person missing “the message”?

 

[cj10jeeper]

I think it’s highly questionable that Jaguar can survive given levels of investment made by Ford then Tata and the ensuing multiple U turns, none of which have produced either real volume compared to perceived competitors nor profit.
The expectation of being able to shut down for a year then waltz out with super high priced EV’s and bounce back seems at best fanciful (imho).

Interesting read here that looks back and forward:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a62716329/future-of-jaguar/

 

[scm]

... we’re happy to be importing Chinese-made vehicles whose country’s copious outputs of CO2 are amongst the worst on the planet.

"amongst the worst"? They're in a league of their own, tonnes ahead.

Am I the only person missing “the message”?

No, but I fear we're in a minority. Wait until November 6th to see how much worse things can get.

 

[DavidP]

I have the same views as a few others on here - so no interest in Jaguar Electric products.
I will also avoid the LR electric'ish side as well [having just acquired a L405 5L SC].
Both should see out my retirement.

 

[OllyH]

Sadly I think this will be the end of Jag. They will lose their dealer network as what will they sell? Electric cars depreciate like crazy, jags already have fairly poor residuals so it will be a nightmare, the I pace shows they can be leaders but then get left behind as they don’t invest.

No offence but they can’t go toe to toe with Bentley and the other higher end British marques.

 

[scm]

No offence but they can’t go toe to toe with Bentley and the other higher end British marques.

Yeah, VW and BMW are strong competition.

 

[cj10jeeper]

Sadly I think this will be the end of Jag. They will lose their dealer network as what will they sell?

Since they already plan to reduce to 20 Jaguar dealerships by 2025 and most if not all will be the combined JLR dealers, then that 'problem' is already solved and underway. The spare showroom floor space when the last F Pace is out of the door will be quickly filled by LR. Perhaps they will get a small corner back when they launch the fancy new EV's, although they do claim they will sell mostly online.

Seems to me that 'JLR 'will in reality and in all but name become 'LR' as the arching brand over Range Rover, Land Rover and Defender, with a token 1 or 2 Jaguar £150k EVs in the corner.

What are the odds that in 5 years it goes the way of MG sold a brand now selling bottom end cars with a word-wide recognised brand
Perhaps if lucky it could go the way of Volvo, Polestar, Lotus and many more under Zhejiang Geely Holding Group and sell Chinese EV's the the leaper on the front.
I hope I'm wrong and customers are lined up outside the door for the most expensive Jaguars ever sold, but I won't be there..

 

[pirateprentice]

The GT was supposed to be announced this year. Lots have things have changed since those plans were made. You can imagine the current turmoil as they try to figure out what to do.

 

[scm]

Perhaps they will get a small corner back when they launch the fancy new EV's, although they do claim they will sell mostly online.

Seems to me that 'JLR 'will in reality and in all but name become 'LR' as the arching brand over Range Rover, Land Rover and Defender, with a token 1 or 2 Jaguar £150k EVs in the corner.

I was under the impression they were only selling Jags at a few (12?) specific sites in the UK (and a few in the rest of the world), though they would still service "legacy" Jaguar vehicles at LR dealers. Not sure Jaguar as a brand has sufficient "luxury cred" to really compete against the real up-market stuff, though. I guess time, and the market, will tell.

 

[cj10jeeper]

Perhaps they will get a small corner back when they launch the fancy new EV's, although they do claim they will sell mostly online.

Seems to me that 'JLR 'will in reality and in all but name become 'LR' as the arching brand over Range Rover, Land Rover and Defender, with a token 1 or 2 Jaguar £150k EVs in the corner.

I was under the impression they were only selling Jags at a few (12?) specific sites in the UK (and a few in the rest of the world), though they would still service "legacy" Jaguar vehicles at LR dealers. Not sure Jaguar as a brand has sufficient "luxury cred" to really compete against the real up-market stuff, though. I guess time, and the market, will tell.

The last I read was the reduction from 80 to 20 Jaguar dealers. Could have changed, but a big decrease.