24 month service cost at dealer

[Billymcmred]

Hi all,
I think I’m about to take the plunge and get an F type
The one I’m looking at was first registered in May 2022,
But not serviced until July 2023 around 8 weeks late at around 9000 miles so over the year but under mileage I’m ok with that but now dealer is saying next service due in July and without some negotiation won’t service car is it’s not due in next 3 months.
I am just wondering what 24 month service cost will be so if they won’t service how much I need to negotiate on price, I will also be looking to negotiate additional year warranty

@simpleR any chance you could do vehicle check on the one I’m looking at KR22 UDN thank you

 

[munchie]

You can get a price for servicing if you go onto the Jaguar Website, the price of the service when booked through the portal is often cheaper than the price of the service given by a main dealer, it was in my case for a 21 p450 - and cheaper than an Indy.

 

[MikeM]

To bring the car into line with the original registration date the service isn’t due until 30th May, so I’m not surprised they won’t service it, as it’s still more than 3 months and they are just looking at the first service, I would guess it’s a Jaguar first ownership car as they all seem to be “first serviced “late ( got one myself ) they have to check it over and that should appear on the OSH. It is still under manufacturers warranty for 15 months, if you can get an extended warranty on from there thrown in that would be a result.

 

[Anonymous]

I have seen your posts. Sorry not had time.
Without looking this will be an ex Jaguar car.
I will look this evening.

 

[Billymcmred]

Thanks simpleR yes ex Jaguar employee car just hoping everything is as it should be

 

[davidls]

To bring the car into line with the original registration date the service isn’t due until 30th May, so I’m not surprised they won’t service it, as it’s still more than 3 months and they are just looking at the first service, I would guess it’s a Jaguar first ownership car as they all seem to be “first serviced “late ( got one myself ) they have to check it over and that should appear on the OSH. It is still under manufacturers warranty for 15 months, if you can get an extended warranty on from there thrown in that would be a result.

When I bought mine, Marshall Jaguar in Ipswich serviced it even though it wasn’t due. When I queried why, they said they would not sell a car unless it had a minimum 6 months MOT or service left. My car will be 3yrs old / 35,000 miles on 16th March and is now having its 64,000 / 48 months service because Jaguar serviced it early before moving it on and Marshall’s servicing it early causing it to all fall out of sync.

 

[Billymcmred]

You can get a price for servicing if you go onto the Jaguar Website, the price of the service when booked through the portal is often cheaper than the price of the service given by a main dealer, it was in my case for a 21 p450 - and cheaper than an Indy.

Thank you I checked looks like around the £580 mark

 

[Billymcmred]

To bring the car into line with the original registration date the service isn’t due until 30th May, so I’m not surprised they won’t service it, as it’s still more than 3 months and they are just looking at the first service, I would guess it’s a Jaguar first ownership car as they all seem to be “first serviced “late ( got one myself ) they have to check it over and that should appear on the OSH. It is still under manufacturers warranty for 15 months, if you can get an extended warranty on from there thrown in that would be a result.

Yes MikeM it’s a Jaguar first ownership car, the dealer that have bought the car from Jaguar don’t have it at the dealership yet estimate 7-10 days, I have put a refundable deposit on it, but by the time it’s all done and sorted it will be March which then means service due does fall within the 3 months (by registration not last service) I know I mentioned 3 months it might even be 100 days, a different dealer quote that time frame

 

[Anonymous]

Car 80491
It was a Jaguar car but what it was used for I cannot find out.

KR22's appear across multiple uses from track cars to cars in TV episodes etc.

KR22 UDO was used by Mission Motorsport for a couple of days for example. From reviewing other such Jaguar cars check the discs and brakes. If they are looking like this KR22 car https://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=78184&hilit=Hard+life#p78184 then it's probably had a hard start to life.

The car was ran by C Walton which is typical of track use cars for KR22 regs. This car would of gone to a closed JLR auction via BCA after whatever Jaguar did with it. Servicing limits are officially every year or 16,000 miles, whichever occurs first and you can go over by no more than 2 months or 2,000 miles to maintain warranty (officially).

Servicing pricing for this car is here.

£471.92. The cost price is £385 so that's your bargaining window!


Jaguar has now launched its own servicing plans however they are more expensive overall but offer monthly payments with no price increases.

https://serviceplan.jaguar.co.uk/serviceplan/quote?utm_source=gs&utm_medium=sem&utm_campaign=gb_as_jg_jg_all_ajg_my23_en_gmc1000_do_awa_gs_bd_2306_rsa_mul_interest_n/a_xpl_n/a_sem_03513420_ba_4200206970_jaguar-service_&utm_content=n/a&utm_term=Jaguar-Servicing-phr&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5rGuBhCnARIsAN11vgRS14vekFGpiwc5MRdjeFBpU9eML5EwqGeledbdZyVNPaYH-zVQyNsaAuoUEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[Billymcmred]

Car 80491
It was a Jaguar car but what it was used for I cannot find out.

KR22's appear across multiple uses from track cars to cars in TV episodes etc.

KR22 UDO was used by Mission Motorsport for a couple of days for example. From reviewing other such Jaguar cars check the discs and brakes. If they are looking like this KR22 car https://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=78184&hilit=Hard+life#p78184 then it's probably had a hard start to life.

The car was ran by C Walton which is typical of track use cars for KR22 regs. This car would of gone to a closed JLR auction via BCA after whatever Jaguar did with it. Servicing limits are officially every year or 16,000 miles, whichever occurs first and you can go over by no more than 2 months or 2,000 miles to maintain warranty (officially).

Servicing pricing for this car is here.


£471.92. The cost price is £385 so that's your bargaining window!
Screenshot_20240214-233637.png

Jaguar has now launched its own servicing plans however they are more expensive overall but offer monthly payments with no price increases.

https://serviceplan.jaguar.co.uk/serviceplan/quote?utm_source=gs&utm_medium=sem&utm_campaign=gb_as_jg_jg_all_ajg_my23_en_gmc1000_do_awa_gs_bd_2306_rsa_mul_interest_n/a_xpl_n/a_sem_03513420_ba_4200206970_jaguar-service_&utm_content=n/a&utm_term=Jaguar-Servicing-phr&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5rGuBhCnARIsAN11vgRS14vekFGpiwc5MRdjeFBpU9eML5EwqGeledbdZyVNPaYH-zVQyNsaAuoUEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thank you, probably what I needed to know but didn’t want to hear , information is very much appreciated you have supplied this information for me on a couple of cars now and I am concerned about buy one that might have had a ‘hard start in life thanks again I have added picture from the dealer any opinion on disc condition 11,000 miles

 

[Anonymous]

Just thinking out loud here.

These P450's will have the limited slip diff with torque vector by braking. So when cornering hard it will brake the inside rear wheel to help rotate the car and improve cornering stability.

The rear pads with the super high performance brakes seem to last circ. 30k to 40k miles. Mine were low at 33k for example with normal driving with a couple of thousand miles left on them. I have seen some of the Fen End cars having new pads at 11k.

An inspection of the rear brake pads and remaining thickness could be an indication. If they are new or nearly new they have probably been changed. Or if they don't have much left then this would be a good marker for previous usage.

 

[Billymcmred]

Just thinking out loud here.

These P450's will have the limited slip diff with torque vector by braking. So when cornering hard it will brake the inside rear wheel to help rotate the car and improve cornering stability.

The rear pads with the super high performance brakes seem to last circ. 30k to 40k miles. Mine were low at 33k for example with normal driving with a couple of thousand miles left on them. I have seen some of the Fen End cars having new pads at 11k.


An inspection of the rear brake pads and remaining thickness could be an indication. If they are new or nearly new they have probably been changed. Or if they don't have much left then this would be a good marker for previous usage.

To me that seems sound thinking,
I have a returnable deposit on the car and spoken to the dealer today they assured me it’s a ‘management’ car I have asked for confirmation I am told the dealer is informed about any track or experience day cars also a bit of a give away is the car would be advertised as VAT qualifying as it was used for business.
They will send me a video once it arrives with them they will include extra footage of discs etc thanks again

 

[Anonymous]

When they go through closed auction they have one of three descriptions.

1) Ex Corporate Repurchase
A Jaguar/Land Rover vehicle previously owned by a vehicle rental company or allocated to a fleet available to JLR partners.
Possible multiple users.

2) Ex Jaguar Internal Fleet
A Jaguar/Land Rover vehicle previously allocated to a fleet available to JLR customers and partners.
Possible multiple users.

3) Ex Jaguar Management
A Jaguar/Land Rover vehicle previously allocated to an individual employee.


Typically Ex Jaguar Management cars are on "O" plates via Paragon Fleet Solutions but recently this seems to have changed so what you are being told might be correct.

Unfortunately there is no way of finding out who had it or what it was used for. Jaguar don't know either other than a category as per the above. You could ask them for the auction paperwork. It will look like this (example).

 

[munchie]

So my car was KT70 NHY, unsure other than it was a Jaguar management car. @SimpleR what details do you have of this car - incidentally if mine has been tracked, I've had it for a year, I've had no trouble with it and the brakes and discs (checked two weeks ago at a service) were in fine fettle.

 

[Anonymous]

Having gone through five lots of paperwork for BCA JLR closed auctions for 2022 all the VAT qualifying cars are listed as option 2 Ex Internal Fleet.

There are no ex management cars which are vat qualifying option 3. Therefore if this car is VAT qualifying I don't think it will be a single user ex management car.

 

[munchie]

Sorry my car was kt70 NHY - purchased in February last year from Barret's.

 

[Billymcmred]

Having gone through five lots of paperwork for BCA JLR closed auctions for 2022 all the VAT qualifying cars are listed as option 2 Ex Internal Fleet.

There are no ex management cars which are vat qualifying option 3. Therefore if this car is VAT qualifying I don't think it will be a single user ex management car.

Yes that’s what they are telling me if it had be VAT qualifying it would have been internal fleet, as it’s not VAT qualifying it has been a management car I will ask for/to see the auction paperwork

 

[Anonymous]

Sorry my car was kt70 NHY - purchased in February last year from Barret's.

No info found on this car. Now on a private plate.

 

[munchie]

Sorry my car was kt70 NHY - purchased in February last year from Barret's.

No info found on this car. Now on a private plate.

Thanks for checking, yep on my private plate now. Not sure if it having no history you can find is good or bad

 

[Billymcmred]

Sorry my car was kt70 NHY - purchased in February last year from Barret's.

No info found on this car. Now on a private plate.

Thanks for checking, yep on my private plate now. Not sure if it having no history you can find is good or bad

Now you own the car probably better not knowing forget about the history and carry on enjoying