2019 SVR Test Drive Disappointment

[brianmccann]

I thought I had done enough research to determine when the exhaust sound got neutered. I just drove 500 miles to test drive a 2019 (US model so no particulate filter) and it was shocking how quiet it was. I couldn't get it to snort or crackle at all! The video below is a 2019 though and it sounds great:

https://youtu.be/rOE2UPw5sgw?feature=shared

So some sound right and others don't? I even tracked down the maintenance records and it didn't have any record of the "exhaust killer" campaigns.

 

[Moss]

Can you be certain both flaps weren’t seized shut on your test car?

 

[brianmccann]

Can you be certain both flaps weren’t seized shut on your test car?

I mean it was loud as hell and I could make it quiet with the active exhaust button. Just no pops and crackles. Looking on YouTube it looks like it may just be more difficult and require using the paddle shifters?

 

[Moss]

…. Looking on YouTube it looks like it may just be more difficult and require using the paddle shifters?

I’ve seen a few YT vids explaining how to get your crackle and pops, on the right car.
The “right” car will pop and crackle in either auto, or paddle mode, at the rights revs.

 

[MarkP]

Need at least 3500rpm then lift. Best is 5000 rpm after hard acceleration then feather the throttle as it drops and get pops down to about 3000rpm. I find it easier with paddles, no control in auto as when come off throttle autovalways searches for higher gears to get to around 1500rpm. Can get pops in auto but short lived.

 

[scm]

Need at least 3500rpm then lift. Best is 5000 rpm after hard acceleration then feather the throttle as it drops and get pops down to about 3000rpm.

In my MY18 I find just tapping the throttle very gently and repeatedly does the business rather than feathering it.

 

[brianmccann]

Need at least 3500rpm then lift. Best is 5000 rpm after hard acceleration then feather the throttle as it drops and get pops down to about 3000rpm.

In my MY18 I find just tapping the throttle very gently and repeatedly does the business rather than feathering it.

Yeah that seems to be the difference. In the MY19 you need to be very exact about it and even then you only get the pops sometimes

 

[brianmccann]

Need at least 3500rpm then lift. Best is 5000 rpm after hard acceleration then feather the throttle as it drops and get pops down to about 3000rpm. I find it easier with paddles, no control in auto as when come off throttle autovalways searches for higher gears to get to around 1500rpm. Can get pops in auto but short lived.

That's exactly the problem. In the old ones you could let off and the rpms would drop as it crackles. Now it just holds the rpms like it's searching for the next gear. How do I get it to crackle? Up-shift with the paddles at 5000?

 

[MANTOT3]

I thought I had done enough research to determine when the exhaust sound got neutered. I just drove 500 miles to test drive a 2019 (US model so no particulate filter) and it was shocking how quiet it was. I couldn't get it to snort or crackle at all! The video below is a 2019 though and it sounds great:

https://youtu.be/rOE2UPw5sgw?feature=shared

So some sound right and others don't? I even tracked down the maintenance records and it didn't have any record of the "exhaust killer" campaigns.

Think you may need to look at this post, https://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=6208
Although as you say there's no G P Filter fitted to the US model, It may be possible that all engines were made / mapped the same, regardless of where they ended up!
So a look at the VIN may confirm that the car you test drove is a later/ crossover model even if it’s listed as MY19.
I’m sure Jaguar eliminated the “on command” pops and crackles at the same time as introducing the GPF.
There are some but very random.

You wouldnt need the drive by exhaust killer patch on the later models as its built into the Origenal MAP

 

[MarkP]

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That's exactly the problem. In the old ones you could let off and the rpms would drop as it crackles. Now it just holds the rpms like it's searching for the next gear. How do I get it to crackle? Up-shift with the paddles at 5000?
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Mines a 2017 but I cant prompt the pops without really opening the throttle and in town thats not advisable. On the open road I am using the paddles. If you are in town or a slow road I just accelerate in 2nd in manual mode with dynamic on and exhaust valves set to open.

 

[brianmccann]

That's exactly the problem. In the old ones you could let off and the rpms would drop as it crackles. Now it just holds the rpms like it's searching for the next gear. How do I get it to crackle? Up-shift with the paddles at 5000?
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Mines a 2017 but I cant prompt the pops without really opening the throttle and in town thats not advisable. On the open road I am using the paddles. If you are in town or a slow road I just accelerate in 2nd in manual mode with dynamic on and exhaust valves set to open.
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Sorry if I'm dense but you accelerate in 2nd gear and let off at what rpm? I'm going to test drive it again tomorrow morning and really want this to work. Does upshifting or downshifting work better?

 

[Jaguandy]

Yeah the old ones are loud. Even in tamest normal auto mode, give it some beans and lift off for the fireworks noises.

 

[Moss]

Sorry if I'm dense but you accelerate in 2nd gear and let off at what rpm?……….. Does upshifting or downshifting work better?

As already mentioned….not difficult….
Best effect with revs over three thousand, on a trailing throttle, using paddles, and gently/continually feathering the throttle.
The use of paddles will inhibit the gearbox hunting for a higher gear/lowering revs.
Dynamic mode, and the exhaust flaps need to be open (which they should be in that mode anyway).

Again, are you sure the exhaust flaps are working correctly and not seized shut on your test car?

 

[Anonymous]

Please also check that Dynamic Mode is in factory setup mode. See my car thread here, about half way down for explanation.

https://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2034&start=20

 

[gasgas]

you also need to use high grade fuel

 

[brianmccann]

Please also check that Dynamic Mode is in factory setup mode. See my car thread here, about half way down for explanation.

https://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2034&start=20

Well I checked this and you were right. Everything was set to comfort mode. Unfortunately it didn't help with the exhaust. There's definitely more to this than the forum understands because this 2019 sounds like a vacuum cleaner compared to other ftypes I've driven and it doesn't even have the software updates people point to. I'm so disappointed it sucks.

 

[brianmccann]

Sorry if I'm dense but you accelerate in 2nd gear and let off at what rpm?……….. Does upshifting or downshifting work better?

As already mentioned….not difficult….
Best effect with revs over three thousand, on a trailing throttle, using paddles, and gently/continually feathering the throttle.
The use of paddles will inhibit the gearbox hunting for a higher gear/lowering revs.
Dynamic mode, and the exhaust flaps need to be open (which they should be in that mode anyway).

Again, are you sure the exhaust flaps are working correctly and not seized shut on your test car?

It actually is difficult because this 2019 refuses to do it. I've driven a few other ftypes and you're right, it's not usually difficult. Just gave up and driving the 500 miles home.

 

[brianmccann]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/xuom9Bq6XDRt8HJv5

 

[MarkP]

Sorry if I'm dense but you accelerate in 2nd gear and let off at what rpm? I'm going to test drive it again tomorrow morning and really want this to work. Does upshifting or downshifting work better?

5000rpm is best as gives loads of time to keep feathering the throttle. I did it this afternnon and it was ridiculous. U can do at lower RPM but harder to maintain pops as revs will drop faster. Its a bit like juggling. Somebidy also mentioned fuel grades. I use Shell 99RON in UK. Suppose being a test drive you may not know what fuel is in the car. Also did you have the car in dynamic on the 1st drive?

 

[MANTOT3]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/xuom9Bq6XDRt8HJv5

You've done the right thing, this car will not pop and bang. It's got the modern tune.
No overfueling on the overrun, not good for the fuel economy, CO2, or the CATs

My 2017 SVR will pop and bang on the over run going down hill with foot off the throttle and Just std mode.

I test drove a car just the same in my search,
I had to move on, keep looking theyvare out there.