2014 'S' Service History concerns.

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TH51

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I'm currently in the market for an early F-type and have found an 'S' that I really like the look of. It's a sub-50k mile car with good early history but I'm concerned that it hasn't been serviced for 4 years. In that time it's only done 2k miles.

If the seller was prepared to include a FULL main dealer service including plugs, filters, coolant, SC belt etc would this make it a good proposition or should I just walk away?
 
Well you don’t state an asking price so not possible to comment if it’s a good deal or not.
In the period not serviced it should have plugs, oil x4 changes, trans fluid, diff oil, all aux belts and lots more minor items. Problem with oils is they age by time not just miles..
I’d certainly consider it as at 10 years you’re buying on condition, but would expect all listed plus more done and a significant discount to normal private sale price.
Post the reg. number and we can investigate further.
 
Thanks. The Reg No is HV14 YNE.

If the seller is up for getting everything done I'd be prepared to pay somewhere around his asking price.
 
Fair enough. Deals can be made if you get the work done and if you’re keeping for a while it could work out well.
Just note that simply because you change all fluids doesn’t undo any issue caused in the intervening time, however I don’t see much going wrong.

If you get the vin number you can look at the service requirements & history on Jaguars OSH https://osh.jaguar.com/ for exactly what was missed and what was completed in prior services.
If you don’t have the vin SimpleR may well find it and give you more details of the history.
 
I bought my first F-type earlier this year, a 2014 S. The cost of a full main dealer service will be at least £1300 which could be a lot for the seller to absorb. I know mine is going to cost this sort of money for its 10 year service but I accept that's what it is.
 
With a shopping list of items missed over the last 4 years where years 9 & 10 have a lot between the 2 services, you’re not going to see change from £2k at a main dealer.
 
My concern would be the service schedule is XX months or XX thousand miles, whichever is sooner.

The "whichever is sooner" part means some would see that as a questionable service history even if the owner catches up with maintenance. That might come back to bite you when you eventually sell it, so factor that in.

Personally I wouldn't consider one that'd been run on four-year-old oil, despite the low mileage, when so many of these cars have been very well maintained with a FSH.

Edit: Not sure if there's a typo but the MOT history is showing 5k miles in the last 4 years, not 2k.
 
Car 13608
The last recorded service was July 2019 with 40k so it's been 5 years and 7k miles without a service.

To do the missing services would £1,830.65p at Jaguar plus rear diff oil so yeah no change from £2k
 
'SimpleR. Thanks a lot for the heads up. 5 years is way too high for me to take a chance on. It will forever be a black hole in the cars history! Such a shame as it's a lovely looking car with just about every boxed ticked on my wish list.

I can see that I'm going to enjoy it on here. Thanks again. I feel I've really dodged a bullet. Perhaps I should change my user name to Donald. :D
 
TH51 said:
'SimpleR. Thanks a lot for the heads up. 5 years is way too high for me to take a chance on. It will forever be a black hole in the cars history! Such a shame as it's a lovely looking car with just about every boxed ticked on my wish list.

I can see that I'm going to enjoy it on here. Thanks again. I feel I've really dodged a bullet. Perhaps I should change my user name to Donald. :D
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You do right. As I previously posted you cannot undo any damage by simply doing overdue services, so given the real gap is now 5 years and higher mileage it's become too risky and makes the car very hard to sell in the future.
I wonder what makes a person own such a valuable car and simply not service it? I could understand if they were say ill and it was on SORN, but not when used and MOT'd annually.
 
What if it has been serviced, has paperwork (remember those days?) to show it's been done but hasn't been uploaded to the service portal?
 
It hasn't. The seller told me he hadn't had it serviced "since lock down" which I took to mean 4 years. It transpires that it wasn't serviced since before the pandemic.
 
Which is a shame as it had a full, on time and itemised Jaguar service history prior to that.
 
It seems that he bought it in 2019 and hasn't done anything except drive it , albeit sparingly, since.

The original owner did nearly 40k miles in the 5 years they owned it and obviously took great care to keep it tip-top.
 
TH51 said:
It seems that he bought it in 2019 and hasn't done anything except drive it , albeit sparingly, since.

The original owner did nearly 40k miles in the 5 years they owned it and obviously took great care to keep it tip-top.
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Without knowing the back story it seems naive to not service for 5 years as the discount he’ll have to give to get a sale will far exceed the servicing costs
 
cj10jeeper said:
......... I wonder what makes a person own such a valuable car and simply not service it? I could understand if they were say ill and it was on SORN, but not when used and MOT'd annually.
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I've told the seller I won't be coming to view the car and the reasons why. Apparently he's got a pool of cars that he uses very occasionally including an E Type and an RS Focus. I got the impression his policy is to have services done to mileage rather than time but he accepts that this will probably put a lot of buyers off.
 
TH51 said:
cj10jeeper said:
......... I wonder what makes a person own such a valuable car and simply not service it? I could understand if they were say ill and it was on SORN, but not when used and MOT'd annually.
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I've told the seller I won't be coming to view the car and the reasons why. Apparently he's got a pool of cars that he uses very occasionally including an E Type and an RS Focus. I got the impression his policy is to have services done to mileage rather than time but he accepts that this will probably put a lot of buyers off.
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Fair play and I understand it but not for a car that you ever plan to sell at a market value..

I have 2 Jeeps that have no service history for over 20 years.. (45 & 26 years old). They do barely any mileage, no tax or mot’s and are used and abused in extreme off road conditions, but fluids etc. changed almost every event and cost over £100k in build costs, but will never be sold :)
 
TH51 said:
cj10jeeper said:
......... I wonder what makes a person own such a valuable car and simply not service it? I could understand if they were say ill and it was on SORN, but not when used and MOT'd annually.
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I've told the seller I won't be coming to view the car and the reasons why. Apparently he's got a pool of cars that he uses very occasionally including an E Type and an RS Focus. I got the impression his policy is to have services done to mileage rather than time but he accepts that this will probably put a lot of buyers off.
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Wise move. I get his approach with classic cars where condition is all-important and the service history is long gone, but don't know why you'd run a modern car like that.

There are loads out there that have been very thoroughly maintained, many over and above the recommended schedule. Hold out for the right one and you won't regret it - they're fantastic cars.
 
Update. yesterday I put a deposit down at a Jaguar specialist on a 2016 340 in Italian Red. Full Jaguar service history, 47k miles and in excellent condition. It was only £1,200 over the asking price of the 2014 'S' with the 5 year history gap and has the security of buying from a dealer.
 
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