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scoobydoo

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Hi,<br /><br />I'm considering buying a set of 20inch wheels and tyres which are OEM Jaguar and come with TPMS sensors. Currently I have 19 inch wheels and tyres with TPMS. Will the new ones be 'learnt' once they are fitted to the car or is it necessary to visit the dealer for the new sensors to be programmed to the TPMS system? If so, has anyone done this and what does it cost to get the new sensors programmed?<br /><br />Regards.<br /><br />Scoobydoo
 
Hi Scooby<br />You need to move the existing sensors from the old wheels over to the new ones. Remember to keep them allocated to the same corners. It'll be cheaper to get a friendly local fitter to do this (around £30-40) than pay the dealer to re-code the new ones. I was quoted £140. That also then avoids any future warranty issues as the sensors will still be original fitments.<br />Hope this helps.
 
Hi Drat,<br /><br />Many thanks for your very helpful reply. It was my intention to get a set of 20inch wheels and tyres but I think I will wait until I've worn out the 19's as, clearly, swapping them over is going to be a pain.<br /><br />Thanks again.<br /><br />Regards.<br /><br />Scoobydoo
 
You said they're OEM Jag wheels with TPMS already installed, in which case you won't need to get your existing TPMS swapped over.<br /><br />I did the same and bought 20" Gyrodynes which are on my car now (with TPMS), the original 19" Propellers are in the garage with their own TPMS.<br /><br />I'm assuming that I'll have no issues if I swap them over, as all TPMS units are paired with my car,but then I haven't tried it yet so that could be an incorrect assumption...
 
Post from an XF forum has this to say, I'd imagine the exact same tech exists in the F-Type.<br /><br />http://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xf-xfr-x250-44/tpms-98729/<br /><br />The handbook has a description of the learning procedure. The new TPMS must be on the car while stationary for 30 minutes. Then you must drive at at least 24 km/hr (I think that speed is specified) for ten minutes or more for the TPMS module to read the codes and assign them to the correct corner of the car. I believe the wheel speed sensors tell the module where each TPMS sender is, so possibly city driving is best, corners will speed up the recognition process. <br /><edited><editID>captainham</editID><editDate>2015-11-09 21:36:01</editDate></edited>
 
Hi Captainham,<br><br>Yes - they are 20inch Gyrodynes with TPMS installed. I have 19inch Propellors with TPMS on at present and am not keen on swapping the sensors over but am thinking I might go ahead and give the new ones a go. Yours clearly 'learnt' the new sensors on the new wheels and I will follow the procedure for the XF which you posted and see if it works.<br><br>Many thanks.<br><br>Regards.<br><br>Scoobydoo<br>
 
Hi guys<br />It'd be interesting to see if the car adapts to the new sensors because mine didn't. I ran it around for a couple of weeks & always had the check pressures message showing so understandably got fed up & sought advice. Granted I didn't drive at a constant speed though. I notice that the sensors are Ford badged so maybe things have changed since then. My car is a fairly early model.
 
Hi Drat,<br /><br />My new Gyrodynes will arrive tomorrow but I probably won't fit them until the Spring. I'm hoping they will register the TPMS sensors after following the procedure for the XF that Captainham kindly posted but I will be sure to advise the outcome in due course. Might as well leave the Propellors on for the winter as I won't be using the car once the cold weather and the salt arrives!<br /><br />Regards.<br /><br />Scoobydoo
 
Hi I upgraded to 20inch a few weeks ago , garage fitted universal sensors and cloned them off my existing wheels. I used the car several times at different speeds and clocked up 200 odd miles and they have now stopped working and won't reset. I'm now buying the original make from the main dealer. I will run the car at different speeds and see if they register automatically. If not I reckon I may need a trip to the main dealer.
 
Hi Alasdair,<br /><br />I'd be interested to hear how you get on with OEM Jaguar sensors. My Gyrodynes are the diamond cut ones as fitted to R AWD coupes. They were swapped over at the dealers and are only a few weeks old. The sensors will have been activated when the car was built so, if the system does learn new genuine Jaguar sensors then I would expect it to do so but, if not, it will mean a trip to the dealers. My understanding is that these sensors have lithium batteries that last for anything between five and ten years. I guess most tyres are changed within five years anyway but if you have to visit a dealer every time you get new tyres/sensors, that's going to be a real nuisance (and costly!).<br /><br />I was advised that if the sensors do not auto detect then the codes can be added manually via the On Board Diag port. It only takes a few minutes apparently and should only cost the equivalent of 0.5 hrs labour.<br /><br />We shall see!<br /><br />Regards.<br /><br />Scoobydoo
 
Hi scooby<br />Got my jaguar tpms sensors fitted ' whent for a spin and after only 3 miles tyre warning light went off so I done a further 15 miles and stoped and started a few times just to make sure , and all seems to be good. It's looking like I won't need that trip to the dealer to get them programmed. Just wish I had done that the first time and saved a lot of time and money.
 
Hi Alasdair,<br /><br />Thank-you for posting - excellent result. Clearly the system will learn new sensors just as Captainham posted and the manual advises. I will be switching to Gyrodyne wheels in Spring and, hopefully, my car will pick up the new TPMS sensors just as yours did.<br /><br />Thanks again.<br /><br />Regards.<br /><br />Scoobydoo<br />
 
Hi,<br><br>I have been in touch with the dealer I bought my MY15 model Coupe from in September 2014. It seems that the new TPMS ID's will need to be programmed into the cars system via the OBD port. Later models do, apparently, learn new ID's but 2015 model years don't appear to. Looks like Jaguar changed the system so I will probably be best to switch the sensors out of the 19inch Propellors to the 20inch Gyrodynes. Also the speedo has to be recalibrated for 20 inch wheels and the total cost the dealer has quoted is £140 plus VAT. The battery life on the sensors is between five and ten years, dependent upon use, so it looks like TPMS is going to be an expensive PITA!! Still, I guess the early warning of a puncture is what counts.<br><br>Merry Xmas!<br><br>Scoobydoo<br>


<edited><editID>scoobydoo</editID><editDate>2015-12-24 22:43:40</editDate></edited>
 
Pleased to report that the new wheels were fitted today and the TPMS ID's were quickly 'learnt' after a short drive. The dealer updated the speedo settings to account for the larger 20 inch wheels (negligible difference in real terms but with an increase in cameras and vans in my area, potentially well worth while!). I plan to keep the propellor wheels as a spare set. My new wheels were built in Sept 2015 whereas the original ones were July 2014 and TPMS registration wasn't an issue, just in case any fellow forum members are considering buying some take-offs.<br>
 
This is all very interesting. I took delivery of a new base Coupe with 18" Vela wheels a couple of weeks ago, TPMS fine.<div><br></div><div>I then changed over to new <span style="line-height: 16.8px;">OEM </span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">20" Turbines with TPMS sensors, winter tyres, everything also fine- after a few miles the pressures were reading (but the recommended pressures which show up in brackets on the screen were not). After a week and about 300 miles the warning comes up that tyre pressures cannot be read. I was hoping they might relearn themselves after a while but have not been out in it for a few days, will check again.</span></div><div><br></div><div>It seems strange that they would work when fitted and then stop after a few miles. Any ideas? I have not had the wheels recalibrated either- how important is this do you think?</div>
 
Hi Yousif,<br /><br />Just been out and checked mine - they are showing the actual pressure and the recommended pressure in brackets. Be interesting to see if they continue to work ok after a week or so. Maybe the speedo reconfiguration needs to be part of the process but I don't know for sure. The dealer advised me to get it changed so I asked them to do the changeover of the wheels at the same time. Ok it cost me more than the local tyre fitters quoted but if I get a TPMS issue within the next month then at least I can take the car back to the dealer. Will keep you posted if I get any problems but, so far so good!<br /><br />Hope you get yours resolved.<br /><br />Scoobydoo
 
Thanks Scoobydoo,<div><br></div><div>So it seems that 15my cars/wheels onwards should pair correctly if OEM parts are used, and show recommended pressures too (but possibly only if the speedo is correctly configured). </div><div><br></div><div>What is puzzling is that mine appeared to work, albeit without the recommended pressures and then stopped working 250 miles down the motorway. Going back up to the Lakes tomorrow so hopefully it will right itself along the way. Will post if I get a result, otherwise will mention to the dealer along with a couple of other small snags.</div>
 
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