P450 info wanted

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DriverDawn

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Hi there,
Just joined the forum and so glad to see a UK centric place with so much knowledge and support.

So I'm looking for a P450 and would like as new as possible as I'm sure it will be a keeper. I spoke to a Jag dealer last week about a 23 P450 and enquired about new as a comparison and he said you can't order new cars anymore. Is that right so it just leaves the odd pre reg and older cars? I see some pre reg cars sub 70k. Is this a good price? I'm a bit confused because an hpi valuation is way under this.

Currently driving an Z4 M40i which is much better than road tests would have you believe, the engine/trans combo is just sublime, but the Jag is well a Jag.....and it'll make much nicer noises hopefully. One question I did have is how much quieter are later ppf cars than earlier ones? I guess there's not much choice anyway with a later car.
Tx
 
Hi I have a P450 AWD. Removing Fuse 15 makes the car noisier but not to the extent of older cars - however in my mature years i dont want to attract too much unwanted attention.
Dealers will ask whatever they want to get as they dont get new stock of Ftypes but trade prices are low - hence the hpi discrepancy.

There are a few private sales at genuine prices mid 45k which provided they still have warranty and full JLR history and are clean on HPI etc reamin good buys.

And i hate to bang on but a stage 1 tune places it faster than an SVR with AWD.
 
In terms of noise, yes, the older models will be louder but when an MY21 P450 can sound like this, who cares! The start of the 2nd tunnel still has me grinning from ear to ear and you can hear my childish giggles in the video because, well, it's hard not to laugh like a child when your car sounds THIS good

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This was on the way back up to Santander after a 3-week driving tour of Portugal in 2022. I need to head back at some point as there was so much of the country I missed.
 
Personally would suggest going with a 1-2 year old low miler as the initial depreciation is horrendous. Ideally still gives you remainder of manufacturer warranty and just extend from there.
 
Cluck said:
In terms of noise, yes, the older models will be louder but when an MY21 P450 can sound like this, who cares! The start of the 2nd tunnel still has me grinning from ear to ear and you can hear my childish giggles in the video because, well, it's hard not to laugh like a child when your car sounds THIS good
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😁 Sounds loud enough. I've done the trip back on a bike from Portugal to Santander or Bilbao, can't remember which, but the roads in Spain and Portugal are epic.
 
I have a P450, it is quiet with the exhaust valves closed but with fuse 15 pulled I think it's a perfect combination of V8 noise, growels and pops.
Any louder and for me it would turn the sophisticated Jaaaag into a asbo chavmobile ;-)
 
I’ve driven both - in summary you can definitely notice the extra power but I’ve never felt short changed when driving the P450 - the 5.0 supercharged V8 in any state of tune seems to be a lovely engine.
As far as I recall, in someways the P450 might even be more enjoyable because you can keep your foot on the loud pedal for longer - maybe it’s the sweet spot in the range.
Nevertheless there is something to be said for an extra 125hp when you’re in the mood!
 
jagseven said:
As far as I recall, in someways the P450 might even be more enjoyable because you can keep your foot on the loud pedal for longer - maybe it’s the sweet spot in the range.
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This is a good point, would've never thought about it!
 
itsajaaaag said:
jagseven said:
As far as I recall, in someways the P450 might even be more enjoyable because you can keep your foot on the loud pedal for longer - maybe it’s the sweet spot in the range.
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This is a good point, would've never thought about it!
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Still can only floor it for a few seconds though, before you're doing silly speeds! ;) You need the 4-pot for extended foot on floor time. :lol:
 
Dynamic Dek said:
I have a P450, it is quiet with the exhaust valves closed but with fuse 15 pulled I think it's a perfect combination of V8 noise, growels and pops.
Any louder and for me it would turn the sophisticated Jaaaag into a asbo chavmobile ;-)
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Agree with the above. Fuse 15 removal makes the pops and bangs happen lower down the rev range too, so you get more drama in day-to-day driving. It's loud and turns heads - any louder would just sound false and over the top, in my opinion.
 
I've recently purchased a year old P450 AWD 75 from a dealer and the first thing I did was pull the fuse and it makes it sound much better, not like the older V8s but they are very loud. Under hard acceleration changing up makes a lovely sound. You should be able to get one mid 50's with at least 2 years warranty left on it.
 
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