Is it worth gettng paint and leather protection from dealer

johnsoncp

johnsoncp

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I've just ordered a factory build F-type and the dealer added a £600 paint and leather protection to the order. I told them to remove it. I've had this on a previous car and can't decide if it's really worth it. That is a high price to add sonething to the paint finish that really should be there on a new car anyway, especially as I've paid over £700 to have a metallic finish.

Any thoughts? Thanks, Chris
 
Hi Chris.

Short answer. No.

I had paint protection on previous cars (Audis), and it really wasn't worth the money. Plenty of swirl marks, etc.

I've had my F type ceramic coated with additional front end PPF wrap. More expensive than dealer protection but far better quality. No swirl marks, very easy to clean, etc.

And get yourself a good quality leather cleaner/restorer. I still use Autoglym that came with my Audi free pack.
 
Don't buy any addons from a dealer be it paint protection, gap insurance, tyre insurance etc. Go to the specialists yourself where you will get a far better product & like for like save a shed load of cash. Find a detailer with a good reputation near you, you may pay a bit more for the likes of ceramic coating but you will get a superior job. Even if you only want wax protection the car will be returned with no swirls or any defects.
What I do is when the car is delivered to the dealership I tell them to leave it as it comes off the transporter with any transport film/covering intact. No washing or anything. Have your detailer pick it up, do his thing then return it to the dealership ready for you to pick it up.
Personally I swear by Gtechniq & get the car ceramic coated, wheels done, outside & inside, interior treated & also the glass. For the F type, I would have a good think about PPF if only on the nose & bonnet. Everyone is different & I am pretty OCD with my cars so you may not go for the full works like me. Cost wise, you will get the full works apart from PPF for under £1000 which is not a lot on a £70000+ car. PPF is a different story as full coverage is pretty expensive. Do your homework, but to answer your question, don't go near the dealer for anything.
 
Definate no!
It's a dealer rip-off that all manufacturers try.

Interior needs no more than a damp, clean microfiber cloth to clean and maintain.

The leather used in our Jags doesn't absorb chemicals like real leather does, so anything you apply just gets taken off when you wipe.
 
Another certain ‘no’ from me.
Dealers sell overpriced add on products that are much cheaper elsewhere and you can get separate warranties and see the work or references..
For me this covers everything from leather protection, to paint, wheel insurance, tyre insurance and anything else you can think of
Exception might be a service plan
 
It's not often you get such a decisive vote. Coming from genuine F-Type owners has convinced me not to take these dealer options. Thank you all again.
 
Tel said:
Interior needs no more than a damp, clean microfiber cloth to clean and maintain.

The leather used in our Jags doesn't absorb chemicals like real leather does, so anything you apply just gets taken off when you wipe.
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Tel, can you explain further?

I used some Aytoglym last week that I had in stock, and it did appear to bring the seats, doors, wheel, etc back to life.

Does what you say about jag leather apply to all models/years?
 
Jaguar do use real leather if they did not they would be up for miss selling. All leather will benefit from being feed. I am with basher, autoglym leather feed will stop bolsters cracking. It might appear to just wipe off but rest assured it is absorbed into the leather.
 
basher said:
Tel said:
Interior needs no more than a damp, clean microfiber cloth to clean and maintain.

The leather used in our Jags doesn't absorb chemicals like real leather does, so anything you apply just gets taken off when you wipe.
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Tel, can you explain further?

I used some Aytoglym last week that I had in stock, and it did appear to bring the seats, doors, wheel, etc back to life.

Does what you say about jag leather apply to all models/years?
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The leather in our Jags has a super thin layer of vinyl. This contains amongst other things, the colour.

I belive that the quality of the hide does change across the range i.e the SVR has a superior hide to the base model... That's my understanding, so it is possible that the 'poorer' leathers may be more susceptible to the thin vinyl layer being worn off.

The layer BTW is pretty impervious to traditional leather balms.

Any product you apply, may make the leather parts appear more 'wet' and nourished, but after you've sat on it for five minutes, the chemicals have been transferred to your clothes.

Their are lots of variables to be considered, how much uv, dirt, wear and tear etc have the seats had?

I use purified water only, and this has the advantage of keeping the leather, especially the seat squab nice and tight... Its a safer and more progressive way of shrinking leather than steaming.
 
Agree the quality of the hide (leather) differ throughout range. However disagree with the use of the word vinyl or there being a super thin vinyl coat. Vinyl is a man made plastic.... The seats in our cars are leather, Happy to disgree......
 
Yes, Jaguar leather seats are leather, but the colour process is applied just like bodywork. It’s sprayed on. Same as modern furniture.
I went to a leather seat seminar once, organised by the JEC and demonstration by the Furniture Clinic.
They used a beat up, dried up mark 2 seat cushion for the demonstration. The squab was severely cracked with the brown natural colour of the leather showing through the green seat.
The seat was rubbed down, cracks filled with flexible filler, rubbed down to smooth finish and spray painted, Just as you would do on an exterior panel.
Came out really good too.
They supply colour to match Jaguar codes in a kit for DIY use.
Was going to have a go myself but they didn't explain how you got around the contrast Stitching!

In answer to the original question as others have said have protection applied by a specialist detailer.
I have had a protection of sealant applied to my seats on top of the finish jaguar supplied, not something I specifically asked for but was part of the whole car detail I had done when I first bought the car. Paint correction, Ceramic coat and PPF to the front end and Bonnet.
 
basher said:
Short answer. No

I've had my F type ceramic coated with additional front end PPF wrap. More expensive than dealer protection but far better quality. No swirl marks, very easy to clean, etc.
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+1

New car correction + ceramic + PPF (nose, bonnet as priorities in that order. Neither essential) and you’re done, unless you go PPF ‘max’. A bonnet PPF isn’t far off the cost of a respray, so it’s a choice.

The ease of washing a ceramic coated car is a joy. From then on, my personal advice is don’t let anyone else do it apart from you or a professional detailer you trust.
 
Fez said:
Agree the quality of the hide (leather) differ throughout range. However disagree with the use of the word vinyl or there being a super thin vinyl coat. Vinyl is a man made plastic.... The seats in our cars are leather, Happy to disgree......
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Our seats are indeed made of leather, but you need to understand that the surface that you see, sit on, and potentially waste money on 'treating' is not.

Maybe my choice of word was misleading, the base leather is sprayed with a ''clear flexible protective coating''.

It's just easier for me to type Vinyl ;-)
 
Tel said:
Fez said:
Agree the quality of the hide (leather) differ throughout range. However disagree with the use of the word vinyl or there being a super thin vinyl coat. Vinyl is a man made plastic.... The seats in our cars are leather, Happy to disgree......
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Our seats are indeed made of leather, but you need to understand that the surface that you see, sit on, and potentially waste money on 'treating' is not.

Maybe my choice of word was misleading, the base leather is sprayed with a ''clear flexible protective coating''.

It's just easier for me to type Vinyl ;-)
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I found this here helpful, which is in line with what Tel just explained.

Got myself Dodo juice cleaner and sealant for a nice little interior weekend cleaning project


[media]https://youtu.be/BlUcG34Htbs?t=307[/media]
 
I'm getting boring now about mentioning this this scene every-time paint protection is offered to me at a dealer etc, I instantly think of this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs
 
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